Aaron Hale

Ep. 225: From Darkness to Strength: Aaron Hale’s Guide to Cultivating a Positive Mindset

David Pere: Coming up the world's first blind and deaf athlete to complete the bad water, one 35 ultra marathon, and how he overcomes challenges in life. If you're new here, we help service members and veterans achieve financial freedom. We have a free Facebook community with over 60, 000 people, a free podcast, which you're listening to right now, make sure you subscribe and leave us a review if you like. Got something out of it, a free YouTube channel. And then for those who are looking to take it to the next level, we also offer the war room mastermind group today's guest, Aaron Hale lost his sight, and then several years later, his hearing as well from an IED blast while serving as an army EOD technician. Now he owns and operates EOD fudge. They build bad ass tactical aprons and they have delicious fudge and other desserts and. He's building a real estate empire on the side for shits and giggles because, why not in this episode we cover his incredible story and then Aaron gives us the simple yet profound secret to how he overcomes challenges in life in order to come back swinging harder and faster than ever before. So you're in for a good ride. This is a great episode. Aaron's a friend, a member of the war room mastermind and an all around incredible human. So without further ado. Here he is. And we're back with Aaron Hale, the Navy and Army veteran gone endurance athlete and fudge maker? I don't know what you would call a guy who owns a fudge company. There's probably a better word than fudge maker. Chef extraordinaire and Aaron, what's up, man? How are you?

Aaron Hale: What is up, David Pere, I'm glad glad to be back on, man. It's been a long time, but yeah, we've been talking, these few years and hanging out. I love it. It's cool to be back on the show.

David Pere: Yeah. It's great. We were just talking right before the show. So for anyone listening, Aaron Hale came on in November of 2019 and at the time he had like a house. I can't remember, I didn't listen to the whole episode again, but I can't remember for sure if he is buying his first house in that episode or just closed on his first deal, but he's come a long way in the last few years. And so I wanted to get back on the show and talk about that. And then also I want to hear about his , I want to hear about your most recent running adventure because you're nuts.

Aaron Hale: Wow. And for. I guess if you consider the fact that I'm totally blind and totally deaf, except for this one cochlear implant. Most of the stuff I do, including, having identical twin toddlers is crazy. But yeah,

David Pere: I'd think most of the stuff you do would be crazy if you weren't blind and deaf. How many people showed up to the Badwater 135? There may be 200 people tops.

Aaron Hale: You know what? I got to Death Valley to run that 135 miles across, across the desert and up Mount Whitney. And it was so funny. I step out of my hotel room in Furnace Creek, it's like the National Park in Death Valley. People actually go there to see it and it's so blazing hot. And everybody's Oh my God, that's hot. And I'm thinking. Man, I live in Florida. This is dry heat. Yeah, you should check out. You can check out my garage.

David Pere: I remember reading your post about when you basically murdered your treadmill. It quit on you, right? Right before the race.

Aaron Hale: Say that again.

David Pere: Your treadmill quit on you right before the race, didn't it? You just ran it into the ground.

Aaron Hale: Oh my gosh. Even before the race. We do so many things and so many things with that that ultra marathon. For one I am guided by somebody. And for the last 10 years, I've been running side by side with a guide using a little tether in between us. We just hold on to, something and run like the shoulder to shoulder with a person. And we find out that it's single track the entire hunt, 135 miles. I can run Be a single file. I got it. We had to come up with an entire new guiding system for me using tracking poles and a waist belt and duct tape and five 50 cord just to, so I can run behind a person. And it actually worked out really well, better than the side by side thing in the school.

David Pere: I wonder why they have that rule. That seems interesting that they would say you can't run side by side, you have to go single file.

Aaron Hale: There's about half a dozen governing agencies covering the national park, the highway and the state and county officials and all that. And they said, if you want to have. You want to have a race on this road. Your runners cannot cross that white lane, the white line. So I had most in most of the runners, they run right on the white line because their shoes start melting on the blacktop. And I had from the white line to the end of the pavement, which is maybe a foot and a half. And then it's a screen and really loose pad dirt. You just can't do it shoulder to shoulder, side by side.

David Pere: And you are the first ever blind and deaf athlete to finish that race, correct? That's right. Man, that's intense. The fact that you're running... races at all is intense. But I remember when you started doing the ultras and you were like, I'm gonna do a 31 and I'm gonna do a 50. I'm going to do a hundred. And then you got a slot for bad water. And I just remember just thinking there's no way I have done some endurance running and I have no desire. At all to run Badwater and for anyone listening who doesn't know, Badwater, the 135 miles through Death Valley is, to my knowledge, as a person who's not run it, one of the, it might be the hardest, but it's one of the two or three hardest ultra runs in the world, right?

Aaron Hale: There are a few majors. Yeah, the marathon to sob , marathon on the sand in Morocco is a five day, five, six day stage race across the Sahara. They also claim to be the world's toughest foot race. And there's like the hurt 100 David Goggins talks about in his books.

David Pere: I've cycled the first 10 miles of the hurt 100 and that's no joke to just straight up

Aaron Hale: The thing about. About Badwater. It's just it's heat, and there are three, basically three mountain climbs to do. And, it's yeah, it's pretty, it's really brutal.

David Pere: And you finished it, because you're a stud. And I don't know, what are your thoughts now that you've done it? What's next?

Aaron Hale: Oh, man. Now I'm I'm looking, I'm actually looking for another race. I'm taking a little time off, focusing on the business, focus businesses and focusing on the family. It ultras really did take a lot of time to travel. iT's a big it's a big responsibility. Just getting ready. And it took a lot of my attention.

David Pere: Yeah, absolutely. I've done two half Ironmans and then I didn't complete it, but I trained for a full Ironman and it's. That's 14 to 18 hours a week that you're training and that's not anywhere near as intense as when you're running. You, at one point you were probably running 100 miles a week plus, right?

Aaron Hale: I was doing anywhere from 70 to, it depends. You have like taper weeks and resting less times. But yeah my biggest weekend, I did 100 miles over three days. aNd that was my peak training uh, that doesn't have, that wasn't, I was also running during the week, but maybe an average anywhere from between say 50 and 70 miles.

David Pere: Yeah. And for anyone listening, Aaron runs on a treadmill in a sauna and his, in his house, essentially in Florida. And and I laugh cause I've seen him posting about. Breaking his treadmill before and I'm like, man, the fact that you run with a guide and you have to do all of this is nuts.

Aaron Hale: The irony there is that almost every race. I try my best to get out and run on the road with a friend and actually train , real road miles because treadmill miles just don't work. Yeah. Yeah. Don't equate. They're not the same. And I've really gotten punched in the face when getting to the actual race after training entirely on a treadmill. It's really having an inflated sense of my abilities and and then totally underestimating the hills and potholes and, because when I lost my hearing, I also lost my vestibular balance, my inner ear balance and we get our balance three different ways in our ear sense of sight, being able to, see ourselves in relationship to the world and through touch, actually physical contact, our nerves and, sensing so if anybody's counting, I'm missing two of the three and. On a treadmill, like on a treadmill, you don't get to use the muscle groups that you use that you would need to balance. So I get out on the road and I'm using one of those, three dimensional muscles, different directions and trying to stabilize myself on the treadmill, I don't really need that. And then I get on the road and it kicks my butt. But bad water was really ironic. I did a lot of the training in my closed garage and most of it was just walking with a weight vest and Some crazy incline on my treadmill because when I got to Badwater, the toughest parts were those hill climbs. And for the most part, it was just, it was like a couple minutes walking, couple minutes running, couple minutes walking, couple minutes running the entire way. And it was the weight vest and the walking on the treadmill that, you know, in, in that Florida humidity that. Made bad water achievable. It wasn't running. It wasn't really running on the road, which I didn't actually do a whole lot of.

David Pere: Interesting. That's yeah. There's a lot that goes into endurance stuff that people just don't understand. And I've only done. A little bit of stuff, but like the nutrition and everything else, just, it's everything's got to be so fine tuned to complete 135 miles. And that's a pretty awesome feat. And we could probably fill the whole show talking about that, but I want to hear your real estate journey. I want to hear a little bit about that. You bought a house on the last podcast and I know you've done a lot more since then. So let's hear what you got going on.

Aaron Hale: I made the podcast the first time around by a, a blind deaf guy actually buying a house. And I'll tell you what, that, man, that was like the. Crucible. That was the gauntlet. It was the very first one. And everybody says, that first one is the learning, that's real estate, university. What we did, we, okay, I'm blind and deaf, and I decide I want to go with a BRRRR strategy. And to find a deal, I went to an online auction to buy it. Use it, and I wanted to use hard money. Online auction out of state and it turned out just like you would imagine. It's just a catastrophe. But we actually buying in a place I was familiar with my hometown. I had a family there, my mom and my brother done a couple of flips and we had a great contractor as a freaking magician. Plus, we also had the market, this was 2019, it was really in our favor. What ended up happening, we bought this property. Oh yeah. And really big but simple learning point hard money lenders, they want to lend to entities, not people. And so don't buy, don't get under contract with the auction house with your own name. Because they don't want to change the contract and the hard money isn't going to give you the money. And we had to go with our own cash. Thank goodness we had a decent reserve. But we didn't have enough to get it across the finish line. So we also learned how to find a private money lender. To get the job done. Also even if you do manage to do a hard money, lending with on an auction, the hard money lenders want to, you're going to want to see enough reserves for at least the purchase price. So lesson learned. But what happened was we bought it one six we bought it at $65,000. We'd budgeted $50,000 for the renovation and estimated it to come out to 1 65 on the rv after renovation value. What actually ended up happening was the renovation ballooned to $100,000. Cause it was built in 1930 had termites living as tenants. It was dry rock, the roof leaks. Everything. I think the the roof was just being held up by the, the hundred year old wallpaper, uh, on the walls. And it was every time the contractor pulled back a bar, they found some new surprise. Anyways so if you're, if you guys are doing math 100, 000 rehab, 65, 000 purchase price, I'm already at 100%. And we needed to borrow about 25, 000 for a private lender to get the whole thing completed because we were out of our own cash reserves. But what happened was we were off on other things like our our appreciation value. And that ended up being somewhere around 200, 000. We did and we rented it for almost 250 more per month. Then we thought we couldn't. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. So we did cash out refinance. We pulled out almost all of our seed money paid back the the private money lender with some interest. And then we started buying some more properties. We bought another single family with the intent of turning into a midterm rental. It was a four bedroom. It was a five bedroom, one bath. We converted it to a , four bedroom, two bath, and we wanted to rent it by the rooms, traveling nurses who couldn't get anybody to take apparently they don't they didn't like sharing bathrooms. So we turned it into a short term rental, and that has been a cash cow in Akron, Ohio. It's impressive. It's like a secondary tertiary market, but there's campuses or satellite campuses of 12 universities within half an hour. There are 3 major hospitals. There's so many points of interest and so many, so much transient. It used to be the rubber capital of the world. That's where the headquarters of Dow Chemical, BF Goodrich, Firestone are all right there still in Akron, Ohio. So there's lots of commerce going on. So we get plenty of rentals and that thing has been doing great for us the last few years. We bought a duplex, originally turned that into a long term rental. But we're converting that into a midterm rental since one tenant can have one bathroom on each side. And we bought another Airbnb short term rental, just three doors down from the first one. And that one's been running for about a year now also, and doing equally as well. Since then, my wife and I we live in Florida while doing all of this. And about two years ago, I partnered with a fellow wounded friend of mine, Dan Devine, and just retired from the Navy out of Pensacola. And we started an acquisition company, sourcing off market deals to either, uh, assign to other investors or. Flip ourselves over, do the bird strategy right here in Florida and keep them in our own portfolio. And we've got currently 3 projects underway in various states completion in the panhandle between Panama City and Pensacola.

David Pere: So you've been busy.

Aaron Hale: What's up?

David Pere: You've been busy.

Aaron Hale: I try to keep busy. Not to mention I've got my own podcast and I'm a stay at home dad with three boys that eat way too much, break too many things that are getting back big fast

David Pere: and you run. And I like to hire separate company on the side to, we haven't talked about EOD fudge yet.

Aaron Hale: Yeah that backing up before that first home purchase. Yeah. When I went blind in 2011 , it was an IED blast. I was working as an EOD technician, explosive ordnance disposal, the military's bomb squad , in Afghanistan. I got blowed up and I lost my eyes. Cracked my skull in a couple of places and was leaking spinal fluid right out my nose. I got patched up, but I also got handed my pink slip, medically retired. And then that's when I started running and doing all sorts of other adventure stuff. Started speaking across the country and then I was doing okay as a blind guy. And in fact, 2015, early 2015, I ran my first Boston marathon. I climbed three 14ers in Colorado on the same day. Kayaking rapids on the Yellowstone River. eVen when hunting, you see that guy up in the corner there. I shot that guy without watching. And everything was going pretty well. 2000... Yeah, 2000.

David Pere: We can't just graze past that. How do you shoot an animal without being able to see?

Aaron Hale: That's another story, but it took it took, it was teamwork. Okay. I had one of those IR dot scope type things a really good spotter. Spotters and they took they talked to me on the target. That's awesome. But it's actually a pretty cool story. But fast forward just a couple of months into mid late summer, about this time in 2015, uh, there was cracks in my skull, which the doctors tried to patch, weren't totally patched and I contracted meningitis and. It put me back in the hospital. It almost killed me. But in the, during the process, it took my hearing and my balance. And I came home in a wheelchair, totally deaf, totally blind. And I did, uh, exactly what somebody in my situation would do. I started a fudge company.

David Pere: Yeah that's what I was thinking. Not sit around and feel sorry for yourself. No, we'll start a company.

Aaron Hale: It was, that was it. I was sitting around feeling sorry for myself. I was like, man, lightning striking twice. I was like, I was really pissed off. I'm thinking when have I paid my dues? When, like when have I had my fair share of giving this to somebody else? But, I've been speaking, around the country talking to people about the success through struggle and triumph over tragedy and all that. And it was like, the ironic joke. I was thinking somebody up there is saying put your money where your mouth is. Do it again. And I'm thinking jerk, but there was the right thought, I've been talking the talk, I needed to walk the walk and I needed to do it again. And the holidays were coming up. So I put all of my effort. And basically my, this, all this emotional energy right into Thanksgiving prep and cooking. And I started making all this desserts and it just piled up because I had a lot of emotional energy going on. And I just poured it into the fudge, fudge making. And it, one thing led to another and all of a sudden we had this fudge company, extraordinary delights or eodfudge. com. And that's what. The, that, that pretty much it took off in a couple of years. It was doing pretty well. And that's where we got our seed capital, the, our investment capital to start getting into real estate and that was culinary arts, cooking. That's definitely a passion of mine I love it. I love being an entrepreneur. I love cooking. I definitely love to eat. And, but it was something, it was like a art therapy and I really have a passion for real estate and entrepreneurship and just , everything about real estate is fun and it's exciting. I know real estate, I don't know if anybody really refers to it as exciting. But , it's a challenge. It's another challenge for me. And if you haven't noticed, I like my challenges.

David Pere: I have noticed. Okay. So you start your fudge company and almost by accident. So for people who don't know Aaron was a cook in the Navy before he transitioned into the army and went EOD. And so he was revisiting some passions and started this company. And when he says it took off Aaron has been on the Rachel Ray show. Before as well as quite a few other places. And then he was, you were selling you were selling tactical aprons.

Aaron Hale: For sale now. Go to the gear. There's a peril link. Yeah. We need to offload some of those things. I'll give you guys a discount. But the cool aprons, I love it. In fact, I wore my tactical apron for every episode of our Tick tock a channel Aaron Hales cooking without looking it almost definitely started as a Navy cook. Then I switched to army bomb squad because of course once I got my first confirmed kill with a cheesecake, I decided to start saving lives instead,

David Pere: Aaron's also an unofficial comedian. If you've never had a conversation with Aaron, you, he's one of the funniest guys in the world.

Aaron Hale: It's always a pleasure. R. M. F. E. Rolling my fake eyes. But oh, I'm all over the place. Sorry, we were talking about aprons. You can call me, army, sailer,

David Pere: I'm still working through the R M F E world Rolling in my fake eyes. . That's awesome.

Aaron Hale: I'm getting a t-shirt.

David Pere: My favorite still is the time that we were at we were at Flip Hacking Live and I had ordered a, gotten a round or two of drinks for everybody, and I'm in the bathroom and Aaron walks up to the ural urinal next to me and yells, damn, a t m won't take my money. I was just like, he didn't know it was me next to him. He had no idea. I was like, that's hilarious.

Aaron Hale: What's even more uncomfortable is if I'm standing right next to what's really uncomfortable is that I try to share, accidentally share a urinal with somebody else. But it's totally inadvertent. But, I'll step up to, one of those urinals, one of those dolls, and I'll just go like this. I turn my head, look over the wall. I'm not, I can't see anything, but. It's got to make that guy uncomfortable. Nice to watch.

David Pere: Yeah. That's oh my God. I think that's too funny. Oh my gosh. All right. So you've got the fudge company. You're running, world class race, foot races. You're buying short term rentals and Airbnbs and burrs and all this other stuff. I'm curious, like, I know you like a challenge and. You mentioned at one point that you were feeling sorry for yourself at one point when all this went down, but I'm curious what, aside from just liking a challenge and being resilient, how did you come back so strong from not just losing your sight, but losing your hearing? That's a, a one, two combo. Not an easy thing to deal with. And there's a lot of people who would just take it and just okay, now I'm going to sit around and instead you're dominating three different industries.

Aaron Hale: I just had a great conversation on my show with a guy who's got a podcast dedicated to gratitude. And it was one of the best, this is a great introspective. Question. And how do we do it? And part of it is, it's a lot of gratitude for what I have and what I'm still able to do and who I've got around me. And, the lessons I can learn from these experiences, bad water is really hard and it's painful and it's hot and it's really pretty discomfort. It's uncomfortable. And, when you come to like your regular marathon 26. 2 miles, right? Yeah. There's a common saying that once you get to 20 miles, you're halfway there. Meaning being that you get past the physical part. To that other half, which is the mental part and something like bad water and other ultras, you get, you have this hardship, you get this physical discomfort, this physical pain and you got to get through that to get to the mental part. And that's when those voices in the back of your mind say, this is too hard. This is too difficult. You're not prepared. You can't do this. And if you weren't afraid to face that voice, to get to that mental part, then, it takes. Daily practice. And when I either the voice was in my head, it came to my head. I remember the moment in a bad barb. There's a part of the section called father crawling and it's these switchbacks going up a steep the second mountain climb and super hot. My balance is all over the place. I think I'm gonna cross that white lane and right and just eat a Volvo's grill, and you. And I was so frustrated and pissed off and that voice was screaming in my ear, you have to quit. And that's when you say, you know what, this is why I came here. You get, you put a grin on your face and you say, I've been expecting you. No. And I do have it in me, I can do this and I can figure it out. And that's what all this is, facing the challenges, seeing what I can do, seeing what I can't do. Learning from what, from learning from my failures. I've had lots of failures, lots of them. We're looking at our wounds from a couple of rehab jobs in Pensacola right now. Oh my gosh, the contractor is one of those nightmare contractors, but we just, we got screwed. And we're figuring we're adjusting , we're learning, we're fixing we're patching those holes in the property and our processes.

David Pere: Yeah. I like that you pointed out that you've had your fair share of failures in there because, I think that's just good perspective because everybody does, but man, gratitude, you are. You are right, right about that for sure. That's one of the things like in the planner that I created. One of the things you do at the beginning of every day is you write out three things you're grateful for. And I can tell a difference in the tone of my day if I don't do that. Or if I don't do the planner at all, that throws my whole day off. But if I don't spend a little time thinking about what I'm grateful for and showing some gratitude for what's going on in life, it's like a noticeable difference in my mood.

Aaron Hale: You know what? Besides just your mood, you're absolutely right. But it, it changes the whole perspective in your day. And also it's a habit. It's a practice. It's a skill that you have to develop over time. Gratitude is important. Is an action, right? Not just a feeling. And you develop this habit of gratitude. Like you were talking about, writing down things you're grateful for every single day, two or three things every single day. And you know what? After a while, you have to get pretty creative because you run out of family and dogs. And in flavors of bourbon, like just so you got to, you really got to think about things in this world that you're grateful for, like that time I got to stand on top of the Eiffel Tower or, I'm grateful that I got to be there for my son's first birthday and actually see him and my whole family for that last picture in my photo album up in my head. So these are things that I'm grateful for every single day, but you got to stop and really meditate on it. And that what it does is not only are you grateful, but then you also, it builds your humility. It builds upon your creativity and it really opens you up for learning and growing. And you know that growth mindset it's, it really is the seed to a great day and a great life is being grateful.

David Pere: I agree. I love that. And that's, I think a really, it's funny cause it's such a simple piece of advice for people going through a hard time. But when you're in the middle of a hard time, it's not so simple, like that's not, that is not what you want to think about most of the time when you're in a tough situation. You're not like, Oh, let me think about what I'm grateful for. That's not natural. So like you said, it's a forced, it's a, an action that you have to form into a habit so that when things are going not your way, you can still sit back and go, you know what? But I've got all this stuff and I've got a pretty good life and it puts a lot of stuff in perspective. It's. It's not easy, but it's powerful.

Aaron Hale: It's not. You, especially, but that's when it's most needed, right? That's, it's when that's Jocko Willock and the discipline equals freedom. And it's easy to be grateful. It's easy to be grateful when you're... iN a good mood when things are going for you, but this most necessary, the discipline of most things in life, like getting up on time, going to work, bathing, basic necessity is easy to be disciplined when you want to. But, sleeping in, when you're feeling miserable feels like the right thing to do, but it's not. And to act the practice. of gratitude. It's most beneficial when you don't want to do your homework, right? When you don't want to do that, write out that list. That's when you got to tell yourself, this is when I need to.

David Pere: I agree. That's great advice, Aaron. I feel like we've covered a lot, but I also know that you have a lot going on. So before we wrap this up, is there anything we've missed? That we should talk about

Aaron Hale: We let's see we're always looking for people to partner with, doing, business here in Pensacola or in the panhandle of Florida and in, uh, Ohio, in Akron, Ohio , we're always looking for private money lenders or contractors or joint venture companies Partners, wholesalers and I'm always looking for people that have a great story to tell about living their best life and leveling up on my podcast, Poi Vivek, with Aaron Hamm.

David Pere: Yeah. And it's a good show. I've listened to a few of your episodes, which is saying something. Cause I don't listen to very many podcasts anymore. I don't have time to keep up on them all. But yeah, man your show is, it's interesting. So I listened to one where you started talking about sleep and how much that had changed for you. And I was like, I had never thought about not to derail and get on a whole huge rabbit trail, but I'd never thought about the impact that going blind would have on your ability to sleep in a normal sleep cycle, and it was very eye opening.

Aaron Hale: Yeah, that's funny. The added bonus of losing your eyesight is the fact that you can't reset your internal clock. That circadian rhythm. So I don't know. Sometimes I feel like it's the middle of the night, in the middle of the day, and vice versa. And then, of course, No, I told you about the added bonus of going deaf is also lost my balance. Pretty much senseless. And although my, of course, as you can tell my sense of humor, sharper than ever,

David Pere: It is, and the thing that I love about that side is, it's funny, iT's interesting. People seem to get, I don't want to say insecure, but maybe uncomfortable sometimes around people who have a disability. They're like, I don't know what to say. I don't know what to is it okay? Do I want to acknowledge, there's like this weird kind of like thing that goes through people's heads sometimes. The thing that I love about your sense of humor is that you immediately break that barrier with anybody you meet because you make jokes about the fact that you're blind or, that you're about the situation. So people immediately are like, Oh, okay. This is a totally comfortable thing. We can it's there, it's out in the open. It's not an elephant in the room. And it makes people very comfortable around you, which is...

Aaron Hale: Half the time it's just a complaint and camouflage.

David Pere: Yeah, but they're the camouflage is good because you get people laughing and people like you and in fact, I don't know that I've met a person yet who hasn't been a big fan of Aaron Hale. I know I'm in Aaron Hale's camp.

Aaron Hale: Thank you. And you know what? It's that is to pull back the curtain a little bit. It is it's a lot of scope. I've had because I have a very limited input of had to develop my output a little bit better communication skills, empathy, humor, all of that so that I can make myself more approachable because, of course, you won't pass me in a crowd. I am not going to recognize you. But also it's about team building skills. Everything in my life is a team sport and everything in your life should be a team sport too. I'm an advocate for this, not just because it's a necessity for me, but it should be a necessity for everybody else. I would tell you, like building these businesses, growing these businesses, I just wouldn't have been possible on my own. So I've had to gather people that have the right skills, the right abilities, right knowledge around me. I can do it better than me. And even if they don't do it better than particular things better than me, at least I don't have to do it all. And that's fine. We're social creatures. We need to be around that. Yeah since humor is is a great tool and team building and relationship, building,

David Pere: The science behind laughter is good. Laughter is really good for your soul and even your physical body. It's a good thing. It's good medicine. It is. Yep. That's what they say. So Aaron, where can people get ahold of you? If they'd like to reach out, if they want to partner with you or listen to your podcast, I know it's the point of impact with Aaron Hale, but what's the, is that where you want people to connect or what's the best way to connect with you?

Aaron Hale: Absolutely. I want them to go and check out the podcast point of impact with Aaron Hale, that's in point of impact pod. com. They can email me with any questions they might have at Aaron at. Sorry, Aaron Hale podcast at gmail. com. Of course, if you want some delicious trees or really cool tactical apron and some other gear eodfudge.com.

David Pere: Absolutely. And we will have links to all of that in the show notes for sure. And I'm pretty stoked about. Just having you back on the show, man. This is, this has been fun. It's cool to, it's good. It's, you know what it is. It's cool to have been your friend for the last few years, but it's also just really cool to see your progress over that time. It's always fun when you get to see. Like follow along on someone's journey.

Aaron Hale: I can say the same. I'm back at you, my man. You've been doing some incredible work. You've been growing just this community, this movement of education and collaboration and you know what? A lot of my success is based on the network you've created and the education you put out. So We talked about gratitude and I'm extremely gratitude. Greg, I'm a gratitude for you. I'm grateful for you, my friend. You too. Good, sir.

David Pere: Always a pleasure, Aaron. And ladies and gentlemen, the great Aaron Hale. I think that's going to be, that's going to be my new sign off. That sounds good. Aaron, thanks so much for joining us today, brother.

Aaron Hale: Thanks for having me, my man.

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Episode: 225

Aaron Hale

Feeling stuck in a negative cycle, always trying to impress others but never feeling good enough? You're not the only one! Instead of trying so hard to prove yourself, you might be doing it because you're scared of failing, not because you genuinely want to get better. This leads to self-sabotage, where you can't escape the limits you've set for yourself. But don't worry, there's a way out. If you start being thankful and thinking positively, you can beat these challenges and find real happiness.

Presenting Aaron Hale, a true-life wonder who leaves stereotypes far behind by simply being himself. Blind and deaf, he's overcome obstacles most of us couldn't fathom as an endurance athlete, completing the strenuous Badwater 135 Ultramarathon in a testament to true perseverance. Yet, his admirable achievements don't stop at sports. Aaron's ability to balance his role as a loving father with his entrepreneurial journey and real estate investing prodigy further exemplifies his stone-strong determination. The secret to his steady rise isn't hidden in extensive training or strategic market timings though, it lies within a well-cultivated sense of gratitude and a contagiously optimistic mindset.


What You’ll Learn from Aaron Hale:

  • What are the strategic keys to real estate investing that can maximize profits and minimize risks?
  • How does positivity and gratitude impact the manifestation of success in all areas of life?
  • What are the blueprints for building a successful team that encourages innovation through collaboration?
  • How can the effective use of humor help diffuse socially challenging situations due to disabilities?
  • And so much more!



00:01:49 – Overcoming Challenges
00:12:53 – Aaron Hale’s Real Estate Journey
00:18:11 – Introduction to Akron, Ohio and Real Estate Investments
00:19:14 – Aaron Hale’s Real Estate Ventures in Florida
00:20:10 – Aaron Hale’s Journey and the Creation of EOD Fudge
00:23:54 – Overcoming Challenges and Finding Gratitude
00:33:53 – The Power of Gratitude
00:37:20 – The Importance of Partnerships and Networking
00:38:29 – The Impact of Aaron's Disability on Sleep
00:40:45 – Using Humor as a Team Building Tool
00:42:39 – Connecting with Aaron Hale

Favorite Quote:

“Real estate is a challenge, and I love my challenges. It's exciting to me. I have a passion for real estate and entrepreneurship. Everything about real estate is fun and exciting, even if it's not traditionally seen that way”. – Aaron Hale


How to Connect:

Check out Aaron Hale’s podcast, “Point of Impact,” available at https://pointofimpactpod.com/, offers an intimate look into the experiences and stories of law enforcement professionals.

Visit Aaron Hale’s business website, https://eodfudge.com/ to shop Veteran-made confections delivered to your doorstep.

For a more professional connection and to stay informed about his latest episodes and projects, be sure to follow him on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-hale-1861477/



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My name is David Pere, I am an active duty Marine, and have realized that service members and the working class use the phrase “I don't get paid enough” entirely too often. The reality is that most often our financial situation is self-inflicted. After having success with real estate investing, I started From Military to Millionaire to teach personal finance and real estate investing to service members and the working class. As a result, I have helped many of my readers increase their savings gap, and increase their chances of achieving financial freedom!

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