Episode 53 | Chris Hoffman | Military Millionaire

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Chris Hoffman on The Military Millionaire Podcast

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David:

What's up guys? Today's episode is with Chris Hoffmann, a former Marine who struggled with transition as so many of us do, and then put a bunch of money into personal development and build a bunch of big businesses and now he runs the vet training and coaching and the ambitious vet podcast and Chris is on a mission to really just help you out with achieving your maximum potential so he's a performance coach episode is just loaded with value. Definitely stick through all the way to the end now I'm excited about this.

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Intro:

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David:

Hey, what's up everybody? Its Dave military to millionaire and I'm here with Chris Hoffmann, who is the founder of vet training coaching and the host of the ambitious vet podcast also a marine so we obviously hit it off on that and I'm gonna let him introduce himself and then we're going to talk about a story and what he does cuz it's pretty cool.

So Chris, welcome aboard.

Chris:

Dave, man, I'm excited to be here, man. I was listening to an episode before this. We're talking offline. I just acknowledge you man, being a marine. We all know that the frequency that we have to perform our daily tasks every single day, man for you to be doing this in the trenches on top of, you know, your relationships and you know, just really doing what you need to be a marine day in and day out, man. I just acknowledge you for making this impact, man. It's an honor to be here.

David:

I appreciate it. Brother. That means a lot.

We actually joined the Marine Corps like right around saying, boy, did you go to boot camp? No, wait, I didn't ask.

Chris:

So I went over here in San Diego. So I was on the west side of the Mississippi. I was originally raised from St. Charles, Missouri, which is a small town outside of St. Louis. And there just wasn't much to do there, right. There were a lot of cornfields. So we found ourselves in cornfields having a lot of fun, you know, four William with big trucks, which probably led to me being a motor t operator in the Marine Corps, which was driving big trucks living the dream.

David:

I really wonder if we've run into each other before there's got so I'm motor T. And we probably were sitting in a map platoon around Christmas of O8-O9 like the same time in the same location. There's a pretty good chance if we play this. Where have you been game?

Anyway. We could do that sometime when we're not recording but I actually recruited in Springfield, Missouri, so I'm familiar with where St. Charles is.

Chris:

Oh, wow. Nice. Yeah, a lot of country boys that want to get out of a small town. That's for sure.

David:

Small world.

Yeah. So tell us, give us a little bit about your story. And what led you up to where you're at now helping veterans.

05:00 - 10:00

Chris:

Yeah, so Dave, thanks, man.

So I mean, yeah, I was originally as I said, from St. Charles, Missouri, a small town country boy that, you know, was born without, you know, my father left me when I was one. My whole life was, you know, sped up very quickly. I had to start becoming a father figure to my two younger brothers that decided to come and do. My mother's life when I was seven. And I had to start growing up quicker so I tell a lot of people that, you know, I didn't really have that childhood, but I had to become a man quicker than I was ready to.

So you know, to kind of speed up destroy real quickly I, you know, I, I started my first business I was 13 years old had a, you know, a lawn business where I had a couple buddies of mine in middle school and even freshmen freshmen and sophomore year high school, we were mowing lawns at $20 a pop just to help my mom there was working three jobs four her three boys. And I felt like I had to carry that because I saw my mom trying to find love, and, you know, really just, you know, support her three boys, which is the only thing that mattered to her.

So, you know, speed up a little bit in high school, I was a guy that was a baseball stud, great at defense and horrible at offense. And had to get humbled quick and realize that that was not my, my next mission, my life purpose. And, you know, surprisingly, after I graduated high school, I fell into a deep dark depression where I became like an alcoholic, and I was drinking a lot of alcohol, a lot of a lot of Jack Daniels. And I was just coming home and this likes picking fights with, you know, at that time, my stepfather, that was just extremely abusive to my younger brothers and me and stuff like that, and just not not a good environment.

So I, at that point, had to decide, hey, am I going to continue to go down this vicious circle and wind up maybe in jail? Or am I going to like, you know, look at what's next. How do I get out of this? How do I be a good example for my two younger brothers? And the funny thing is, Dave, is I serve seeing those Marine Corps commercials on TV. You remember, those were the guys climbing up the mountain. And then that's it, man. That's it.

You know, he's like, carrying the sword. He's in his dress blues. And I was like, Ah, that's it. You know, I want to climb the mountain. I want to overcome these challenges and show you my two younger siblings, man that like, you know, anything's possible. You get out of like, just this toxic environment. And in 2008, man, I swore into the United States Marine Corps. And, you know, I always say it saved my life, for sure.

So once I joined, and 2008, you know, I got into motor T, I was a motor T operator. Man, during that time was amazing. I had some of the deepest connections and bonds with men I never even thought that would ever have. I was a guy that never saw consistency from a man growing up before the Marine Corps. So I didn't naturally trust men, most of my friends, we're not always the guy that hung out with the girls. I was the I was the one that the alpha men wanted to kind of kick through. I was in the friendzone, man.

Yeah, yeah. And, uh, you know, what's cool? What's cool is like, you know, I started getting these connections with these men, I started learning how to be, you know, be the leader of men, I always thought I could be and build my self confidence. And I got the honor privilege to, you know, do a tour in Okinawa, Japan, I was there for about a year and a half, got to have some fun, near Naha, and all those all those places. And I did the seven month deployment in Afghanistan, where I was a part of a quick reaction force. And a small out there where we were just, you know, Val is a 240 Gun, bravo gunner at that point, and, you know, taught me a lot about life when you get away from the noise.

And then it was during that deployment, where I decided that, you know, hey man, I've done it all. Yeah, I've only been in for four years, but I did a combat deployment to get some as US Marines like to say, and, you know, got to be in Japan, got to see the world broaden my perspective. And, you know, it was time for me to move on. And at that point, in 2012, I was just like, okay, you know, I'm still 24 years old. I have 28 to get back into gneisses Marine Corps. If I screw this whole damn thing up, I can always go back. And the funny thing is, Dave, is, you know, when I got out, I walked out of the Marine Corps uniform and right into a sales uniform for one of the world's largest commercial gyms.

And, you know, every good story, you know, you there's a learning experience, right? So 12 months later, I was one of the Top Producing sales reps at this company. And I still got laid off because I was overly professional. I had no emotional intelligence. I had no people skills at all. And I was just so mission driven. I don't know if any of your listeners are listening to this that could relate to that. But I mean, when you get out you when you're a Marine, specifically in our prior parts, I was just so overly professional, I was mission driven. I was like, okay, what's the next thing to execute bah, bah, bah, bah.

10:00 - 15:00

Chris:

And people just didn't feel connected to me. And it was not a cultural fit, and they want to push me out. And that led me to close to, to not close, but two failed suicide attempts. Because I just lost my purpose, man. I crashed and burned hard. And I just didn't, I didn't know what I didn't know at that point. And that's when I started really realizing that well, I got to start looking in the mirror, and stop blaming other people. And that was whenever I started realizing that Yeah, writing a resume, learning how to network, and learning how to do interviews are great, but that's not going to make a lasting change. That's not going to create consistent results, that's going to have me living the impactful life that I felt like when I was serving in the Marine Corps. That was when I made the decision after those two failed suicide attempts that I was going to be the author to my story.

David:

I love it, man. That's a wild story. And you know, it's funny, not a lot of people talk about the fact that you can, in fact, be almost not necessarily too good at your job, but too good at. So I guess a good analogy, David Goggins I think talks about that, right, like in his book, how he was kind of an outcast, and part of its because he was this just over the top overzealous guy, and you figure in the navy seal to the right, that's a little little intense to think that that can be the case there. But it 's crazy to think, you know, oh, man, I was one of the Top Producing guys that I just, yeah, there's got to be that human connection. Right.

Chris:

Amen. Brother. And I would just add to that, it's this like, yeah, you can be an over performer. But I was often described as I was trying too hard. I was trying too hard. And I wasn't confident in my own skin brother. Because I look back at it. I just, I was super insecure, had low self esteem and didn't have a lot of confidence. And I'm, I was overperforming. Because I was trying to prove something going back to not having that father figure, you know, I was a guy that was just like, okay, maybe if I like become this, like, big sales guy at this company, you know, my dad will come back into my life, right?

David:

Yeah. Yeah, that's huge. You know, I like that. You mentioned the purpose piece. We were talking about that before we recorded. But one of the main reasons for me, starting to build this community was that I recognized I can't take credit for the I didn't recognize people enlightened me, but that not having a purpose, when you get out of the military is probably one of the main things that leads to all of the struggles with transition, right? Because you go from making a difference in the world, to what, what's next? And so that's kind of why I started building this was to try to give myself a purpose.

So I think that's kind of neat that that's similar, similar experience or not experience, but thoughts there.

Chris:

Yeah, thanks for that, brother.

David:

Yeah.

So then you go and do what probably? Well, I don't know if this is the next step. But when you're talking, you invested a substantial amount of money into personal development? Which.

Chris:

Yep.

David:

I would imagine that if you were dimensioned, to any marine that you'd served with would probably tell you, you were outside your mind, because people look at me, like, I'm crazy for spending a couple 100 bucks to go to a conference. You know, kind of walk us through that.

Chris:

Yeah, that was a defining moment, right. You know, after you know, to failed suicide attempt, you're kind of this, you know, and at that point, too, I was living in an apartment I couldn't afford out here in San Diego, California. And one of the most, you know, poverty stricken areas in city heights out here. That's the part of San Diego you do not want to go to, they say America's finest city. That's not the part that's not the part.

David:

You're not talking about that part.

Chris:

Not that part.

Always just like, you know, I was sleeping on a wrestling mat. I had a school desk to my name, I was eating chicken breast and black beans. And like I said, I was going to work quick. And, you know, I was going to, you know, a lot of free resource workshops and stuff like that. But I started realizing that they had no emotional commitment to me actually getting results. They had grant writers that they were writing for their programs, and, you know, funding for those and they weren't getting paid off the results that they were getting for veterans.

So I started having this like, somewhat like paradigm shift. I was like, yeah, we have tons of free resources. But, you know, there's no one like really, really committed to me getting results. It's kind of just like, Hey, here's how you write a resume. Here's how you interview. Here's some recruiters to plug into. But I was like, yeah, there's still like an emptiness inside of me. I don't feel fulfilled, right.

15:00 - 20:00

Chris:

And, you know, that's whenever I was like, Alright, screw it. You know, I started listening to the guys like Grant Cardone, Darren Hardy was one of the first guys I started following. I just love how white and black he was. He wasn't fluffy, he was just like, Man, you're gonna fail. If you don't do X, Y and Z, I was like, Okay, I get it, you know, and he just spoke my language, right.

And then, you know, I wind up, you know, making some great money in network marketing. I had a couple sales teams throughout, you know, the United States, where I would travel and train them. And, you know, I was going to school at Nash University, finishing up my psychology degree, so I had some money to spend. I was good at keeping my expenses extremely low.

So I got lucky enough to partner up with two other marine corps brothers of mine, and we invested over at this point. I think this program that we invested into was over $12,000, it was a success resources, Tony Robbins just became an investor inside the company.

Yeah. And, brother, this course life directions inside that company transformed my life, I remember still to this day, you know, the trainer getting up on stage, and him just saying, hey, look, you know, you are going to know when you're swimming with the current of life and also against the current of life. And I never heard those concepts, man, I was like, What the hell are you talking about? Just tell me the mission, tell me the resources, give me the mission objectives, getting my fire team, and I'll get it done. And I was like, What are you doing this whoo stuff.

And I and all of a sudden, I looked around, I saw my two brothers that were doing the program, you know, with the Marine Corps brothers. And they were just like, let's do this thing. So we just sat there, man. And I continue to listen to these concepts. And I was just like, wow, like, I am swimming against the current of life.

At this point, I was doing a network marketing company, I was, you know, doing a six month workload in school down to one month and at university for those you guys that are listening to this that have done that university. And I was grinding, busy, busy, busy, but I was passion broke. I had no sense of direction. I don't know why I was doing anything I was doing. And I thought success was making a lot of money. And it's just at that point, I was just like, I had this whole new aha moment in that moment. And I was just like, and he was just like, Look, you can tell when you're, you know, flown the current of life when you are in your superpowers when you're, you know, your core values when you know, your belief systems where you're going, what your talents, gifts and skill sets are. And I was just like, at this point, I was just like, I don't even know how to skillset translate or something like that. Right.

So, you know, then he was just then he flipped a switch in this trainer, versus like, you know what, you know, you've got a brand that you've mastered. And I was at that point, I was just like, brand would I've mastered. What am I mastered at this point? Well, it's not a lot. I mean, I've sold everything from a Kirby vacuum door to door. I've sold cable internet door to door. So fitness memberships. I mean, sales, maybe. But I was like, What could I really make an impact in. And I was just like, Man, it's the military transition. And from that day forward, I invested another like 20 grand on other transformative work and stuff like that. I'm still involved with the personal development and transformative community out here in San Diego today I coach and lead leadership programs of coach CEOs, professional athletes, and all that.

And, you know, I dove into the trenches, Dave and I started uncovering what is actually missing inside the military transition community today. And I started that in 2017. And what I found to dive into the trenches, studying veterans that were still in uniform, like yourself, ones that were just getting out figuring it out, and even ones that were years out, that were like, killing it, crushing it and life career business, may I there was a trend that appeared. And this is the trend I found that you know, it was community. There it knew what their next community to be involved in was. See when I got out, I don't know if your listeners can relate to this. I went to the taps and teams, I went to these other free workshops, stuff like that, but it was all live and in person.

You know, I was going to these workshops, they're giving me some great tools, but there was no accountability on going to them or I tried to stay accountable to her support. It was kind of like, here's the tools, go have fun with them. And, you know, it just wasn't the right methodology for me. So I was just like, okay, community is definitely a big one that I was finding.

Next thing was individuality. See, when we're in the uniform, we've got to be uniform to the guys and gals, the left and right side of us, right? If you have any sense of individuality, you're wrong. Right? So it's just like you're doing push ups on the quarter day. And I did a lot. I did a lot of push ups on the quarter day, you know, honor, courage, commitment still ingrained in me.

And, you know, it's understanding what those strengths, skill sets and what your superpowers are. And then once you can identify those, you're going to know what communities to plug into. And then you're also going to be through the consistent actions, you're going to create the impact and what I found mostly was that veterans that were getting out the three plus years out, man, they've got the first second or third job, but they weren't feeling like they were making the Superman or the Superwoman impact. They felt like they were fulfilling why they were in the uniform, if that makes sense.

20:00 - 25:00

Chris:

And then I asked a why question to these, these guys do podcasting, blogging, you know, a Facebook group, I was like, so why is this a problem? And it was a trend to senior enlisted commissioned officers that were getting out, they were just like, we don't know who we are. It's an identity crisis. It's self awareness.

So from that day forward, man, I was just like, well, I'm going to take over $50,000 of personal fashion development, I paid to play for my own development that's made me multiple, six figures in life, and helped me get a relationship of my dreams, and have just super deep, deep connections, where I just feel like I belong in the world outside of the uniform, right, that's another big thing. And I'm going to repackage this and create programs and online communities and opportunities for influencers, like Dave here, you know, to plug into and promote and position himself as an expert. And that's the rest was history, man, that's kind of how the whole ambitious vet movement was born.

David:

Man, that's crazy.

That's just cool. I mean, to think about, for one, that you've only been out of the Marine Corps for like, seven years, right? And you have gone through, you've gone through some rough spells, but you've only been in the, you know, coaching sphere for, I mean, it hasn't been that long, and you've had a ton of success.

So to think of, when you think back to like, Marine Corps mentality, where people, I mean, people scoff at you, it's funny, because you know, you go buy a brand new Mustang at 20% interest in like, blow your whole paycheck on it. And everyone's like, high fiving you and thumbs up and whatever. But you go and you spend, I don't know, 20 bucks on a book. It's like, whatever, you know, there may be no book.

But you know what I mean, people people for personal development. It's kind of, it's almost like a bad name. Because you're, Oh, we got professional military education, which is great. But like, heaven forbid, you want to spend your money on it on your own.

So to think that you went through a mindset change, not only in deciding to invest in yourself, because that in itself was a huge shift from probably where you were before, to just see how much you've gone. And just, I mean, your communities skyrocket, right? Like, I got introduced to you from somebody who's probably her podcast airs tomorrow, and or next week, and it's probably one of the best podcasts I've recorded so far. And you're just, I say all this just to say that I'm very impressed with the amount of impact you're having.

Chris:

Oh, I appreciate that. Brother. Yeah, we're lucky. We're lucky man that, um, you know, we, we, we look for the long term game. we've scaled this with strategic partnerships and, and stuff like that. We bootstrapped, bootstrapped it since the beginning. And I'm proud to say that our overhead is less than $1,000 a month. I've been profitable since day one.

David:

Yeah, that's awesome. That's cool.

Chris:

Yeah, and I would just add this, David, I would add this man for any of your listeners that are in real estate investing, see, you can apply these same core principles of personal development even to this right so like, I'm not a real estate investor, me and Maggie do want to, you know, potentially do that because Grant Cardone is one of my, you know, Midwestern boys, I believe in that he calls it wider black, he's not using fluffy words. And he says, tangibles are the best way to invest today. Right. And I believe that.

So we're definitely planning on. But if you, you know, if you look at what are your skill gaps, your knowledge gaps, your human capital gaps, and actually being successful as even a real estate investor, right? You can start identifying, Okay, wow, I need to know more about this. And then you ask yourself, why do I need to know more about this? That's when self awareness comes into play. And you can start understanding yourself in a different way.

You know, one of the best quotes that I like to, you know, say is, if you know the why on why you're doing things, you can live out any how, right, a lot of people are listening to this, you know, want to become a real estate investor, but they don't know what yet. And I shared this on a podcast I was on last night, actually. And back when I was being a sales trainer, anybody that was signing up with us, or whatever I'd get in front of the room, Dave. And I would just ask them, why are you here? And there's like, What were you talking about? Aren't you supposed to be selling me something? No, why are you here? And they were just like, well, I'm here to like big money. I'm saying, Okay, well, why, why? Why do you want to make more money? And they're just like, Well, I mean, I want to pay my bills. I mean, where are you? What are you getting? Where are you going with this man? And I was like, awesome. So you want to make you want to pay your bills. Great. Awesome. So why is that important, too? And then all of a sudden, you just see people light up, and they're just like, wow, like, No, I want to actually make my family proud of me. Right?

25:00 - 30:00

Chris:

And I was like, wow, that's it. That's what's going to give you the intrinsic motivation to go out there and define actions, become resourceful and find stuff. Because Google is our new common sense. You can find anything on Google. And with this new connected age that we're in, you can leverage all these social media outlets to connect with people that used to be untouchable, and literally 24 hours.

So I would just encourage your listeners, Dave, to get down to why they want to be real estate investor, if they're just still contemplating it, and listening to your content, and ask the three what three layer why and then once they get to that spark, I'm like, wow, this is why I want to do it. Okay, then what are the resources? What are the tools? What is the stuff that you need to start investing into paying to play? So you can become who you want to be quicker.

David:

Absolutely.

Paying to speed up the process. A lot of people don't look at it that way. But time is the one one thing you can't. It's more valuable, right? Then cash. So pay into speed up time is, it's powerful.

I would be curious, and we're gonna talk in a second about this exciting new venture coming up. But I would like to ask, do you know or whatnot do you know? Do you have any pointers for how someone might kind of help fill out personal capital gaps? I know, you've mentioned that a couple times. That's not an easy thing to do.

Chris:

Yeah, yeah. It's it. Yeah, it takes work, man.

I mean, even when you were sharing like before this right, you said you were journaling, when you were getting blown up and combat and stuff like that. Even that starts having you start asking the difficult questions like, you know, how I used to start to mean is I did the same thing as I used to wake up in the morning and be like, Okay, I'm feeling off. I'm feeling anxious, right.

You know, why is this and then just start writing. Why? Why am I feeling anxious? Okay, what is the problem I need to solve today? What are my resources? and stuff like that? Start creating critical thinking. If that makes sense?

David:

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

And I agree, writing is very therapeutic. I think everyone should write.

Did we? Are we still here?

Chris:

Yeah, exactly.

And then I would just say, like, identify what your primary aims are in life, right? So figure out what are the big three goals that you want to go after? Right? And then you know, start reverse engineering that, you know, one of the things that's coming up is the ambitious fest on October 23 2019, we're gonna have one of our biggest Sprint's ever, this is our third one, it's really an opportunity for elite ambitious vets that are wanting more but don't know the first step towards becoming it work together as a fire team gunner, you know, just really uncovered the land mines. And what's stopping your momentum, your progress in areas of life that matter to you?

So you know, what the journey that we take them on is? First, you know, uncovering What are your big three primary aims, a lot of veterans, when they get out, they don't even know what they don't even know how to go set, right? Let alone just like how to quantify it and track the progress, right. So we teach them how to create primary aims in life.

Now from there, we have them do what we call value assessment, where they actually start uncovering what matters to them, like, you know, in the Marine Corps, honor, courage, commitment, it was ingrained in us our behaviors were shaped by those core values.

Well, this program is gonna allow you, you know, as an ambitious vet to actually uncover what your core values are. So then we can start creating productive habits and routines, from that, that creates consistent results that fulfill and empower you, you know, Tony Robbins says it's best if you increase your quality of life and improve your follow through in your execution.

If you know your core values, you're going to know how to create productive habits that create the fulfilling results that you want. From there, we take you through this practice through all the money that I've invested in myself. Um, that is called the 15 Minute Miracle. And it uncovers the landmines that stop you in your life, things that you're committed to and it's amazing.

There was a guy in our last sprint that realized that the thing that was stopping him was communication with his wife, believe it or not, is always the small things that's why whenever you know, yeah, it's always the small things man it's always the fundamentals that are stopping us. And he wasn't communicating around how much debt to income they had in their life and it was just killing him and you know, he actually admitted by the fourth session in an intimate setting with a fireteam of ambitious vet we and then from there, we got to equip them with tools to how we communicate.

30:00 - 35:00

David:

Oh. No.

All right, we're back. I'm still recording. So I lost you at a. He hadn't admitted debt to income ratio.

Oh, you're muted.

Love it. This is an adventure. All right, best podcast ever.

Chris:

It's always fun.

So debt to income ratio. Right? So he wasn't he wasn't communicating his debt to income ratio. Right.

So with that being said, think about it in your life, where are you not getting? Where are you getting stopped by communicating what is actually there? Where are you not being honest? And he understood what his core values are, like honesty was his number one, he wasn't being honest with his, his wife that was stopping him and ex union creating results, like, you know, creating more revenue inside the household, being able to create partnership with his wife so they can create solutions together. And then once he uncovered that, you know, their household income raised by $100,000.

And, you know, he also, you know, his wife actually went and got promoted, because she actually found that she got, she got to hear her husband's heart in a way she's never heard it before. And now he is, you know, he's thriving, he's happy. He was just filtering through the conference. And he's just so much more connected to who he is, he's calm, confident in his own skin he does. He's not carrying that shame, if that makes sense.

From there, it really is, I'm going in bi weekly, with these with these, with these veterans in the weeks that I'm not coming in Dave, we got subject matter experts from leadership development, media experts, we got a financial coach coming in. So we're hitting off, or we're dotting all the i's and crossing our T's.

David:

That sounds thorough.

How long? How long is the program?

Chris:

It's 12 weeks,

David:

Man, it will change your life. It only takes 13 to become a marine. So you know, 12 for the next best thing.

Chris:

Exactly.

David:

Oh, man.

That's, I mean, that's just cool, because I'm a huge proponent of personal development. I mean, obviously, you can't start trying to run any kind of business without being. And I mean, books of books and networking, kind of the same thing to you, I started this podcast with the intent of being able to pick people's brains, and just network, right, which is huge. It's amazing what you get out of that.

But you tailor the program, specifically to veterans, and that's very unique, it's very niche down. But it's gonna be so much more beneficial, because any personal development programs gonna help you out, but coming from somebody who's been in the military, and done the transition, and had the transition struggle, and then come back and been very successful as a guide through that time period. I mean, that's huge. That's super exciting.

Chris:

Yeah, I mean, it's, it's not an it's, it's, it's been a difficult challenge, because, you know, I was just in a boardroom, like on Thursday, where we lender first sponsor for this sprint first command, which is an amazing company global over 170 offices nationwide, and they actually threw some money at us. And the first thing that there are strategic partnerships in the board member said, right, when I walked in with my pitch deck was just like, we don't support, you know, companies that are for profit to help veterans.

I was like, Okay, got it. No worries, I just continued to pull out my pitch deck. And by the time I was done pitching, everyone was just like, wow, this is a amazing, and they were just like, and it's a niche, narrow, like you said, Dave, that's three plus years out, veterans are senior, commissioned officers that understand that, you know, like, you've got to start paying to play you've got to invest in yourself.

And, you know, here's the thing is I've invested, I've invested probably 1000s of hours and and done over hundreds of interviews with ambitious vets and top performing veterans on my podcast, and even outside the podcast, and they've all admitted that they've invested in themselves. At some point, it's calling the white elephant out and see, I've I've always been a guy from the Midwest, it's just like, be authentic man. Look, we've all paid to play. Let's not, you know, say that we're not. And let's also guarantee results.

35:00 - 40:00

Chris:

So if you go to our website at veteranandcoaching.com, you'll see that, you know, every one of our programs by the fifth or seventh session, they get a personal money back guarantee, meaning that we're standing beside our product. We're not hiding Behind grant writers, we're not hiding behind the volume of veterans that we're putting through our sprint averages anywhere from five to 10 veterans that are really committed to actually getting results in their life. And yeah, man, we're standing by our brand. And it's funny because at the end when they're writing the check, they're just like, yeah, I get this isn't a popular vote in here. But as a treasure first came in, and San Diego, California, he's just like, I just want to let you know that this is amazing. And we're gonna back you until, you know, you don't want to do this anymore. And I just dropped out, I dropped my head down. I was just like, wow, we do have something here.

And if I could just speak into an ambitious vet's heart right now, it would be like, you know, the reason why I did start this things I want to help you guys get ahead of the landmines that are coming. You know, a lot of veterans, they get that first job. And if that satisfies you, great, awesome. If you're getting the bills paid, that's the only thing that matters to you. You want to live in, you know, you want to live in the glory days of serving, I get it. Trust me, I like to brag about my war stories and stuff like that as well.

But this sprint is for veterans that know that the glory days are still ahead of the name, they can actually utilize their intangibles, to actually start creating more impact. And like, you know, Dave's intro to the show says actually become a person worth knowing. Imagine that out of the uniform, you know, being someone that just attracts opportunity, you know, the right connections, and you just cashflow that you can create more impact. And that's, that's really why we're doing this. And that's why we have you know, sponsorship money coming in so we can keep the cost of the program super low. Because I can charge well more than what we're doing. But we want to make sure they're skin in the game. So any ambition fat coming in has an emotional commitment to get results in your life.

David:

Yeah, that's I mean, that's just absolutely huge.

And I, I love the fact that you keep bringing up the wider black feedback, like Grant Cardone and Darren Hardy and all these guys, because I was just joking earlier today, I recorded the podcast on one of my buddies' shows. And I was like, Man, I'm so sick of these people who just tell you like, Oh, yeah, that was good. Like, it's like, people who make it into American Idol to try out. And they're terrible. Because their family never had the cojones to tell them, like, you suck, right? And I'm like, those are the people I'm surrounding myself with, the more that I'm around, you know, I've got I've got certain friends that are very prone, like I know, if I send them something, they will tell me if it's terrible. And like, those are the guys I go to for advice.

So I like that that's kind of your approach, because I think, I don't know if it's more veterans or more just people that I know. But that seems to be the way that resonates with people, right? Because it's like in this PC culture nowadays, people are afraid to tell you if you're wrong or afraid to tell you if you're going in the wrong direction. And that kind of tough love is what you need to really spur you on so.

Chris:

Yeah, I agree, man.

The fluffiness that has never been good for us. I mean, we've always had to communicate very sustainably for the mission, right? If we wasted time overly explaining things. I mean, the mission wouldn't be done, right.

So like, I'm just taking the same old way of operating, why we're in the uniform and applying it to here. I mean, they need to get the truth out. And you know, we're no problem creating a blue ocean, per se, for veterans that are three plus years out to say, hey, you've got your first or second or third job, you realize that resume writing, interviewing and networking isn't isn't necessarily beyond and all.

Now let's start figuring out what matters to you. The job is easy to get out of the uniform, the job is easy. It's just to utilize what they said. But is it things that are fulfilling you as a human being? Because like David said, Are you building your human capital? Are you building your social capital, creating the connections that are going to create consistent opportunity long term and real estate investing business. You know, career life, whatever. It's really important, man.

David:

Yep.

And I would encourage any of you listening to you know, I'm not normally one to plug programs and stuff. But if you can think of somebody you knew who got out of the military, and the military really was the best time in their life, they just hit a wall. And that was it. Right?

We all know those people who got out of the military and that was it. They'd like, like we joked about before the show, they become a Walmart greeter or you know, and maybe they don't need to work and maybe they're totally content doing that. I would venture that the vast majority get stuck in a rut, and that then they struggle and that's the reality.

So if you know people who got out and struggled, you know, and couldn't figure out what, what was supposed to come next. Take a look. Take a look into it, the ambitious vet podcast and the veteran training, coaching and just look into what it entails to become something so I can tell you right now that I am being fulfilled just as much by what I'm doing outside of the Marine Corps as what I'm doing in the Marine Corps.

40:00 - 44:46

David:

And going forward, you know, I know what my y is. I know that in order to accomplish that why is one of the big things is I need to control my schedule. And so I, you know, that's kind of been kind of my leaping. You know, I could make it through the next nine years. But that's kind of been my, my springboard that I finally was like, yeah, it's time to get out because I need to be able to control my time control my schedule to spend time with my family, that I made a mistake this when I moved here from Hawaii, I took a full 25 days off. And it was the first like, three week period that I've spent with just my family. And I was like, oh, man, this is it. This is it. I can't, I can't. Nope, I'm done.

But it's amazing because people think this, like it just kind of ends after the military. But you can, your life can be so much more fulfilling, and it can just be the springboard to keep going. So definitely look into the look at Chris and look into what he's doing.

Chris:

Yeah, I appreciate that David. That means that means the world to me, man.

David:

Dude, I love what you guys are doing online. Right? I see your Facebook groups, I see you commenting all over the place. I see. You know, I just, it's cool. It's really cool to see veterans genuinely trying to help other veterans, because there's a lot of noise. Not not just not that not that it's bad, right. But there's a lot of noise. You don't know if you come up on transition, you don't have any idea what to do. And it's not because there's no options. It's probably because there's too many options. So it's good that you've found a way to streamline that.

Chris:

Yeah. And I appreciate it man and some insight into what you're doing here, man, just putting in the work, you know, listening to the feedback loop, what do people that are actually engaging with us? What do they want, not what I want, what do they want? And then just figuring out how you know, your skill sets, and you know, your talents and gifts can align with that. It's really simple.

David:

Yeah. All right. Well, before we wrap this up, is there anything we didn't touch on any other big ideas or parting advice you'd like to hit on?

Chris:

Um, be resourceful. Um, you know, that has been one of the best intangible skills that, you know, I have, I have learned to establish You know, there's a quote that's in my best selling book 10 steps to predictive success, how the uniform that talks about the most dangerous thing in life is a resourceful idiot.

You don't have to know all the answers, okay? You just got to know how to find the solution. If you know how to do that. People are gonna fall in love with you. Because what that opens up is a better connected network. You know, you can connect people, connect the dots, some of the most, you know, affluent and influential people are the ones that know how to connect the dots, solve problems through their network and stuff like that.

So I would say learn how to be resourceful in your life. And, you know, it also gives you more time and freedom. We're talking about real estate investing time freedom to do more of what matters most to you.

David:

Yeah, resourcefulness is huge.

You'd be amazed where you can come up with but just knowing what questions to ask or where to find information.

It's funny, we say that all the time in the Marine Corps, right? everybody's like, Oh, I don't need to know the order. I just need to know where to find the answer. Absolutely. It's a reference.

The problem is that we don't understand how to do that outside of the Marine Corps. So many people like, Oh, well, now what? Like, find the answer. It's like, it's amazing. How helpful that is.

Awesome. Chris, where can people get a hold of you? I know we plugged the website already, but bring it back up. And where else? Where's a good place for people to connect with you?

Chris:

Yeah, man. I mean, any of you guys are listening to this right now that are three plus years our senior enlisted commissioned officer that's feeling stuck unstopped you know, just stopped in a certain area of life that you want to kind of break through is are creating consistent results I invite you to, you know, visit veteranandcoaching.com apply for the sprint, it's completely free. We're going to be announcing everyone that gets approved probably the second week of October. If you just want to kind of, you know, hold hands. I love holding hands as well come to the ambitious vet tribe on Facebook. Or if you're more active on LinkedIn, go to the ambitious vet network and start plugging in so we can take you on the journey from warrior made to passion.

David:

I like it. I like your elevator pitch. That was good. That sounds good. That was a good, good pitch there.

Awesome.

Hey, Chris, thank you so much for joining us. This has been a blast.

Chris:

Hey, man. It's been amazing, man. Thanks for having me, Dave.

David:

Absolutely.

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