Jason Campbell on the Military Millionaire Podcast

Ep 214: Jason Campbell Insights from Mind Spaces to Real Places

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What's up? Military millionaires. I'm your host, David Perry. And today we have. I'm excited about this episode. This is with Jason Campbell, who is a meditation expert, a Zen music expert. This guy has been practicing music and

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wellness for over 45 years with over a hundred albums released. I was just listening to his piano, his Zen music before this.

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And honestly, it's probably good to replace what I listen to when I focus in the mornings. It was phenomenal. So I'm going to just kind of leave the intro at that and let you introduce yourself, Jason, and then we'll talk about how we got connected, because it's not the way I think most people would would believe. Well, hey, thanks for having me on.

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Unknown

And I think some of the things you just said, there's a you know, there's a lot of stories we can talk about. So let me let me go back to the beginning. So 45 years ago, I was eight years old and this was my introduction to meditation was my piano teacher and my first lesson, little eight year old boy.

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So I sat down and she looked at me in her thick Russian accent and she said, Never listen to notes, idiots. Listen to notes masters Listen to the spacing between the notes. Because when you listen to a note, your mind is cluttered. You hear nothing. When you listen to space or silence, your mind begets becomes clear, and then you hear everything.

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So my entry point into music was playing one note down and we would listen to that note. Gong like dissolve into nothingness and keep the attention gong. And then we would just keep listening. And we started with that. And then, you know, a decade or so later, when I was formally trained in an ashram and I'd sit and be meditating for 4 hours, I realized I had already been meditating.

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We just didn't call it meditation. So we called it deep listening. And then some time later I said to her, Well, what happens if you're playing fast? I got to get going guitar. You have all these fast notes and there's no space. And she, you know, looked upon me disapprovingly and said, said, Wow, you're so stupid, little child.

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You know, it's just the training. And she said, Then you listen to the space underneath and you dial into that space. So it's kind of like looking at a canvas as opposed to the painting. Or we could even make another analogy. It's like when you look around, you look around in the room you're in, there's more space than form.

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The word exist is Latin, and it just means to stand out. To stand out of what? To stand out of nothingness or emptiness. And so you have the form, you have the emptiness, you have the sound, you have the silence, you have the painting. You have the canvas, whatever analogy you want to use. But when you focus on the silence, your mind becomes very clear.

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Unknown

And here's an analogy, and if you're just listening without visual, I'm holding a snowglobe and I shake the snowglobe. And so we say, This is your head and this is your head on thoughts. Well, guess what? The snowglobe is a turbid shit show, and a lot of times between the ears becomes a turbid shit show. I think it's estimated we have like 80 or 50 to $80000 a day in 99% of the same thoughts we had yesterday.

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Well, when I make the snowglobe, still, the turbidity settles and then we have clarity. And ultimately, at its fundamental purest form, meditation is just stopping the voice in the head, the thinking mind. And you think it's a monk sitting in a mountain or somebody chanting Ohm? Sure, that's one way, but it could be on your new Ducati going whatever insane speed you're going to go, Oh, that's because there's no past, there's no speed limit.

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The speed, of course, what else could it possibly be? So but in that moment, that's a form of meditation, or we practice what we call Zen marksmen. And part of marksmanship is this You're completely there, you're completely present, you're completely in the moment. Zen archery is whatever it is. I mean, we in our organization, we do swords, we do Ito, and we do all the types of swords.

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But Katana is I mean, there's the cutting, the katana, and we do it up in the mountains. And so your mind is very still. It's one pure cut, one beautiful cut, no pass, no future. There's only now. And so there's many ways to get there. And we like to say there's three types of meditation sitting, standing and moving.

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We think of meditation is just a sitting meditation. But no, there's standing, moving. You can do all types of things. It's just having a gap in the voice in the head. How's that for a welcome intro? Oh, that's phenomenal. And that's everything you could want, because that's exactly that's exactly what you know, how I mean, that basically fits into how we got introduced and my thoughts on meditation.

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Unknown

I mean, that's might be my struggle, right? I've thought and tried to get into meditation for years because people are like, Dude, you got to meditate like your chaotic, you're all over the place, your thoughts, this, that and the other. And I'm like, Yeah, you're like, Oh, a meditation so profound. And and every time I think about it, what I think of is like ten or 15 minutes of sitting on my couch staring at a wall, doing and thinking of nothing and like that just does not last for me, right?

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Because I'm like, dude, there's too much going on in life. And I'm, you know, I don't want to say I'm ADHD because I don't want to put that on myself. But, you know, I'm I'm just I'm all over the place. I got things and ideas. I'm an idea guy. I'm a visionary. I'm, you know, the moment I sit down, it's like it's hard.

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Unknown

And I know that it comes with practice, but, you know, so for me, the epiphany was was months ago we were talking about this before we recorded when I was sitting in my ice bath and, you know, I was just breathing and I was just counting the breathing. Right. For in old four, four, four out old four, four or whatever.

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Yeah. And I realized, wow, this is like my version of like, this is it. I'm just I'm at peace. And for 5 to 10 minutes in this cold water, I am there's nothing but counting the breath and peace. And I feel and people are like, oh, well, you know, there's health benefits and there's no health benefits. And I'm like, I don't care.

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Unknown

Like, I have 10 minutes of no phone. Nobody can reach me, no thoughts. All I do is breathe and it's peaceful. And that was my time. But the whole reason, the way that we got connected was literally you mentioned the difficulty. Steve Sims was on the podcast. We were talking and he was talking about exactly this was was he brought you up talking about meditation and how he didn't believe in it, and then pointed out to him that he meditates every single day when he's on his motorcycle and he can't be reached in his helmet's on and these rip it around on the motorcycle.

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And that's his time when he's connected with nothing but him in the road in. He's a master meditator. Absolutely. And so. So there's many paths up the mountain. And a lot of times when I work with entrepreneurs or anyone who has a busy mind, which now is most people, not everybody, a lot of times, starting with the sitting, meditation creates more stress than bliss.

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It's like you sit there, okay, what the hell's going on here? I'm supposed to be meditating, but I got emails to return. Okay, this is a waste of time, but everyone tells me I should do this. This is something that should do this. And there was a study that said that this is good for me and everyone tells me this, but what the hell am I doing?

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Unknown

So that becomes the inner dialog, you know, winds up being worse. You know, it's like you you get out of it with more stress. That's that. That's very, very typical. And so in that case, what we do is we don't start you with the sitting meditation, but usually start you with the breath because then you start to go through some breath work and the breath gives your mind something to focus on.

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Unknown

And what you referenced is called sometimes box breathing or combat breathing for seconds in hold for 4 seconds, you know, 4 seconds out and then hold for 4 seconds. And that's a great, great entry level breath movement to do. I mean, we have a whole series of different breath exercises. Ultimately, it's about putting you in the now because it's always you.

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Unknown

You're always here and it's always now. And the monkey mind, you see, if we think there's a there's a wonderful teaching in the word human being, we have the human part which changes moment by moment. Every seven years, every one of our cells has been completely replaced. But the being part doesn't change. So the little eight year old boy or eight year old girl, that was the observer.

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While that observer is still exactly the same, that's the being. So we have the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, the monkey mind the thoughts. But then we have that which observes the thoughts. And one of the keys to I'm going to say, some inner peace. We can, we can call it, and we can go much deeper on this because it goes much deeper than inner peace.

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Unknown

But but go with me. Here is activating the observer. So can you activate and just watch your thoughts? Because we think, well, there's an old saying, you are not your thoughts, which is true. Your thoughts are flow through. And what I said before, most of them are the same thoughts we had yesterday. So most of the thoughts that we have, we're like a skipped record we don't even need.

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And when you can drop those thoughts and come into no thought, even for a split second, it opens you up to a level of peace and a level of creativity that otherwise you can't get with a like with a cloudy head or a full head. See, there's a big there's a big missed teaching here. Everyone use the word mindfulness.

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Unknown

It's actually not correct. Everything in mindfulness is wrong, and most of the stuff probably that you've been taught in mindfulness is actually wrong. And let me explain this. I think it was 1912, right around there, there was a scholar, T.W. Davis, and he was transcribing or translating the SANS script, and the word came apart called SA T and he the sa t means awareness is a good word, but he translated it to be mindfulness.

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Unknown

And then that word just stuck. But let's think about it. Mindfulness. Okay. Do you really need more things in your head to create peace and to be happy? No, it's actually the empty, the opposite. We need mind, emptiness. And so it's completely flipped on its head. And here's the other trick that you have to be aware of. I used to think that it was like an evil Daoist master taught everybody wrong.

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Unknown

So everybody would say, You have to work on being more mindful. Okay, that's that's completely wrong. Everything about that sentence is wrong because mind full well, let's not be mindful, let's be mind empty, which is another way of saying present or aware and presence is not something you can work on. It's only something that you can experience in the now.

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Unknown

So the moment you think you're working on being more present, I have to work on being more mindful. You're done. It's like a fish looking for water with a fish is looking for water. You're never going to find water because it's all around you right now. And so what's the trick? Well, there's many tricks to stop the thinking mind.

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When I was a teenager, I said to my martial art instructor, I said, Hey, what's Zen? He looked at me, smiled, and then side kicked me. True story. I went flying across the dojo. I hit the wall, I fell down. He looked at me, smiled again, and walked away and said nothing. He was a great teacher. He gave me the experience of Zen and while I was flying across the dojo, I even had a word for it.

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Or that was my Zen word, a moment, because there was no past. There was no future. There was only now Winston Churchill has a famous quote. He said, There's nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without result. That's a form of Zen. He didn't use the word Zen, but we could use the word presence because there's no past.

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Unknown

There's no future. There's only now. So next time you think of mindful. No, it's not mindful. It's mind empty or. But a better word is just present. Just. Just present. That's easier. Easier word like vacuum and storm alert. When rounds are flying, it's it's exciting and exciting. This one exhilarating, is a good way to put it. I don't know if I recommend that for most people.

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Unknown

I would agree with that. Let's let's let's do some breath work instead. Show that definitely I think better ways. Maybe getting kicked across the dojo. Oh, and then so All right. So I'm curious. I mean, 100 plus albums or, you know, how obviously you've been playing piano for a long time and you're quite talented at it and you've been in the I mean, this this is just sound.

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Unknown

It sounds like been just something that's kind of consumed the vast majority of your life, the meditation and the the music side of everything. But along the journey, like, I mean, I guess I'm just curious, like how how did you blend? I mean, that's not like a that's not like a, you know, a career like that. Most people are like at eight years old, like you're just like, yeah, I'm totally going to become like this musical meditation wizard who makes a total career out of the like, that's not, you know, most like the not something that most people foresee as a occupation at a young age.

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Unknown

So how did that come to be? And obviously you've done well with it. So I'm just curious kind of, you know, take us on the journey. Okay. Well, growing up, I was deep into the musical arts. I somehow had good teacher karma as a child. I was just around really, really talented people that that guided me. I went to music school.

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Unknown

I went to Berklee College of Music in the eighties. So I got my whole music education very, very young. I mean, at age 17, I was taught around Europe playing the great organs and the great cathedrals. And so so I did, I did all that stuff. And then I also got deeply involved in my late teens into Zen training and to martial art training and to sword training into yoga and the Oriental medicine.

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And really we can say, you know, Daoist spiritual cultivation and I can remember I think I was like 19 or 20. I remember where I was. I grew up in the Boston area. I live in Phenix now, and I remember having this realization that it's all the same, that whether you're swinging a sword or with a baton, conducting an orchestra or playing a piano or fighting, it's funny as that sounds, it's all the same.

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Unknown

It was it was cultivation and bringing out the spirit. See, there's many paths up the mountain and there's many ways to get there. And I just remember because I was like, assistant conductor of an orchestra out in Boston. So I'd have a baton and, you know, I was trained in those arts. I was trained in like film school, film music and film scoring.

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And it was the same, whether it's a sword or a baton, what's the difference? It just becomes an extension of you. And then this is an expression and this is an artistic expression. So that became very clear to me. Then I had to I took time off writing music professionally to raise a family and do all my Zen training and build an organization and grow an organization.

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Unknown

You know, I had to take time off to do all that. And then about ten or so years ago, I came back to it and saying, okay, I speak these two languages. I know the language of the door, I know the five elements. I know what's called the e ching. I understand these symbols. I understand how they represent patterns in nature.

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Unknown

I know all of that. I speak that language and I speak the musical language, which is really is 12 notes in the musical language. The technology changes. And I had to retool because all the technology I learned with on a piano with a pencil and a piece of paper, So it was before all this new technology. So I had to retool and learn a new tool kit.

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Unknown

But the 12 notes were the same, and the human condition was the same, same, and the principles of vibration were all the same. Technology changes, but the moment you hit two rocks together, that's technology as a music technology. So I always had the attitude that, you know, give me two rocks and a tape recorder. I'll make a great album.

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Unknown

Well, you know, the technology is the technology, whatever. It has nothing to do with that. That's just the tool. It's the it's the creativity. And so I had an organization and I started writing the music for our organization just for all of our members to practice to and to breathe to. So it wound up being times music. And then I started to teach the principle of what we call the five elements, which is really it.

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Unknown

Okay, very simple principle. If you look around, things tend to organize themselves in five. It's a natural number in nature. Look at your fingertips, look at your toes. Look, we have five vowels, we have five senses, and there's a decimal system. Count that on your hands. And Oriental medicine, we have five sets of organs. And they figured this out thousands of years ago.

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Unknown

And instead of calling it one, two, three, four, or five, well, let's give it a poetic name. Let's call it would fire earth, metal, water. But it's not literal wood, it's not literal fire. It's a metaphor. And it's just the metaphor for the repeating pattern. For example, we have sprouting, flowering, fruiting, falling and transforming. Oh, okay, that's the five.

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Unknown

We have the five senses. We have sight, touch, taste, smell and sound. Oh, and each one of those are connected with an element. It may be funny, but even in pop music, it's. I want you. I miss you, I need you. Let's party and social commentary. Here's all of pop music, how we can connect all of those elements.

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Unknown

And we can in medicine. We can connect the organs to the different elements. All of acupuncture and all of Oriental medicine is based on this principle. Now, just as a fun little fact, there's actually we say there's five with a mysterious sixth. We have five senses with the mysterious sixth sense. We have five vowels with the mysterious sixth and again back to the medicine.

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Unknown

We have five sets of organs with this mysterious sixth organ. They call it pericardium and triple warmer. And so where does that come from? Well, we say six energies hit the ground, five reflect back up. And that's the reason time is done on a numeric of six and form is done in a numeric of five. So we have 60 seconds, 24 hours, 12 months, like you can't fit time into five.

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Unknown

Time has to be six because of the six energies. But looking around, we fit everything into five. So we have this five. You'll see it repeating with this mysterious sixth that just kind of shows up. And so, okay, but back to your original question then. What was my journey? And then it just evolved. And then one album turned into two, turned into nine, turned into 18, turn it, and then it just keeps going.

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Unknown

And then what I do is a new album, the fourth Friday of every month I release a new album and then I have multiple other projects. I do the I'm the music director of a VR company. I do sleep music with actually a few different companies. I write other sleep music. I'm writing the music for the Vatican. NFT Right now I'm deep in the the Michelangelo and all the Sistine Chapel and, you know, creating all that into music and putting all that into sound.

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Unknown

Going back to the Latin, some of those, you know, old Latin sayings and with choirs and operas and it's so much fun. Yeah. And connecting it and it's like connecting Michelangelo's teaching of I don't know if you're familiar with the Sistine Chapel, but there's nine stations that he did and connecting all of that into creation and then turning it into sound for an NFT, one of my favorite projects ever.

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Unknown

That's cool. The lot. Every fourth Friday. Yeah, man, that's intense. I mean, that's what it was. Multiple different projects like this coming Friday. Now, by the time this podcast is aired, this album will have would have already come out. But it's called New Opera Primal. And what we did on this project tried it. We flipped opera on its head.

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Unknown

Traditionally, opera is an external drama that expands. And so I thought, well, what if we what does that look like upside down? Well, let's look at your internal drama and dissolve it. And it's dissolve through deep listening. So I took this Vedic mantra, a very old mantra of the planets. There's nine planets and according to the the the vortex, and each one is a mantra.

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Unknown

Think of it as like nine gods, nine mythological gods. And they each have a story, they have a strength, they have a weakened weakness. They're not all good. It's like Marvel characters. Those there's some dark ones. Come on. Good night. And we scored them in these little three minute short stories. All but. But not a story is in an English story.

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Unknown

It's a mantra. So it lets your imagination in your mind go to start to drop into the into the now. But that was one well, one project. We have a Zen chill project coming out, and most of those albums are Zen piano. And Zen piano is a translation of a 6000 year old language called the Etching. And that's that's why it kind of writes itself.

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Unknown

The way I look at it, it was written 6000 years ago. I translate it when Michaelangelo would make a statue. He would say, I didn't make anything. All I did was remove everything. That wasn't the statue. And the statue revealed itself. Yeah. So I have the same approach, like it's already there. And we call that addition through subtraction.

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Unknown

And there's a great life teaching in the life. Teaching. Is that it? We call it the sword in the flute. At any given time in your life, there's something you need to cut. There's something you need to drop. There's something that's weighing you down. And whatever it is, it could be a thought pattern, it could be a relationship, it could be £10.

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Unknown

It could be something big, it could be a business, a big relationship, a small relationship. Or then we say, Oh, here's just so cool, and your life is so together. Maybe you just need a haircut, cut your fingernails. I don't care what it is, but any every garden constantly needs to be cut. So there's something in your life you need to you need to cut always.

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Unknown

And the other metaphor is the flute, which means what in your life is working? What do you need to pump more life into? Because of all the things, there's usually at least an 8020. You know, if you're working on five things, one of them is probably working better than the other four. You know, you might have five properties and one of them is kicking butt and the other four maybe or three are okay and is weighing you down.

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Unknown

I mean, I'm just making this up right here, but what is it in your life that you need to just breathe more, put more juice in to put more focus into. So that's the sword in the flute, because when we're first born, were met with the sword in the flute as a metaphor. We're met with the flute is the breath.

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Unknown

We take a breath and then the sword comes. Cut the umbilical cord because the opposite of death is not life. The opposite of death is birth. Life has no opposite. So when you with death, it creates a birth. Lightning hits a tree. Boom. There's a death. But then there's this birth that happens as a result. So in your life, when you cut something, you have a death.

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Unknown

Meaning? Maybe I'm overselling the drama here. If I use the word death and ending. But if you like the metaphor, you cut it. But that gives room for something else to grow. And it ties into even what I was saying in the beginning with your thoughts. Like most thoughts we don't need. So you drop your thoughts and it gives life to something new, something creative, something that you otherwise wouldn't have had if you didn't have the space for it.

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Unknown

Other love it. Yeah, it's cool. And I think the the Zen music, like the Zen piano thing, you know. So I listen to, you know, what I'm trying to focus or trying to get into flow or trying to get work done. I always like music and somebody pointed me towards this app called Brain Dataflow at one point, which is just like binaural beats you put into your headphones.

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Unknown

And yeah, because I would always, you know, I have a very interest eating almost eclectic taste of music, which is just like I listen to everything pretty good, you know. So my assistant used to make fun of me because I'd be in here rocking out to like, you know, Moland or Disney and then like, and then, you know, just like, all kinds of crazy stuff.

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Unknown

And the one man is this, like, metal. And then the next minute it's like Mongolian throat singing. And then, you know, I'll just whatever. But I realized, like anything with vocals throws you off. You can't, you can't really it's hard to function if there's lyrics. Yes, you got it. Rain. Your brain wants to listen to the words, even if it's even going to into their language.

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Unknown

You're trying to, you know. And so when I was listening to years before the recording, I was like, Oh, man, I could totally, totally listen to this while I'm working because it's I mean, it's it's exactly like what, you know, green of it where it's it's totally out of mind. But like, if I don't, if it's quiet, my brain starts to wander.

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Unknown

Yeah, it's got to be, it's just non lyrical music, you know, classical music or, or something that, but yeah. So I'm definitely, I'm definitely going to keep checking out your YouTube channel, you know, And what you said is actually really, really profound that if you're doing any type of meditation or any type of deep work, you don't want to listen to any music with lyrics in your native tongue or lyrics that you understand because that distracts you and it puts a voice, it puts someone else's thoughts in your head as opposed to having like your own thoughts or, you know, creating, you know, tapping into whatever you want to call it, universal thoughts or God

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Unknown

thoughts or whatever word flow, state, whatever word we want to use. So it's really profound because that's really true. And sometimes if you go to a yoga studio and, you know, and they blast some whatever music that has lyrics, that's the worst thing you can possibly do out in a yoga studio. Somehow a lot of the younger teachers nowadays lost that point.

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Unknown

I see that everywhere. They do these playlists with everything with lyrics and it takes you completely out of the now and it takes you out of your out of your body. So and part of the Zen piano and I have a YouTube channel that does that as well, and I have a bunch of stuff on it. I do new music Tuesday, every new music on the YouTube channel, and they're kind of longer, like three hour songs, basically, that's really designed for the background you put in that might be by the Ocean or by the campfire, and it's designed to just drop you into the now.

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Unknown

It's not designed to sit there and actively listen to it. It's more for your subconscious mind while you're doing something else. You put it on and you just get a little more creative, a little more still. You have almost, almost less thoughts or there's space, more space in your thoughts. And that's the reason that that music was written for that purpose.

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Unknown

So that's a real good observation. Well, I will be listening to that because that's yeah, most of my what I'm thinking, I usually have that kind of music in the background, like those really long and I, you know, just music playlists. So yeah, we Trina's out this week. Okay. So I, it was, it's like a total leftfield shift.

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Unknown

It will probably come back to this. But, but you know, this is a real estate podcast, so I got to ask you've got to tell me the story for it. Clear, right. Is that what. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So for those of you who don't know, not only does he, you know, write 100 albums and and meditate and, and fight ninjas with swords and all the other stuff, but apparently he buys ghost towns, so.

00:29:27:11 - 00:29:49:12

Unknown

Yeah. Oh I've been, I hear the story and I've always played in real estate. Oh, so cool. I love, I love real estate playing it of one of had great successes in real estate. I've gotten my ass kicked a couple of times in it while, you know, you know, the greatest champions of the world are not undefeated. Nope.

00:29:49:23 - 00:30:07:06

Unknown

I think whoever wins the World Series lost a lot of games winning the world. So in real estate, sometimes you get your ass just completely destroyed. And that's happened to me. So I've had a few probably. Did they try to? I always try to remind my kids that I'm like, you know, the best the best baseball players in the world don't even get on base half the time.

00:30:07:06 - 00:30:34:07

Unknown

Like, yeah, they bat like 300. You know, they they fail seven out of ten times and they're the best in the world. That's the world at it. So sometimes in business is the same way and sometimes in real estate. What I said before, you might have a few different projects and one just does really well. And here's the funny thing is, because I've had different projects that it wasn't like I was super smart in this one project that worked and I was super stupid in this other project.

00:30:34:12 - 00:30:58:05

Unknown

No, I put the same amount of mind and carefulness and consideration and guess what? One of them, I got lucky. The other one I got unlucky. Oh, I love Obamacare. I love that so much because survivor bias is so real. And I, I love when we see people get like super successful and people are like, Oh my God, they did all these things and it's like other people did those same things.

00:30:58:05 - 00:31:21:07

Unknown

Yeah, that's right. Like, that's right. It's just like the idea that like, you know, when you see somebody survived cancer and they went, they didn't do chemo and it's like, well, obviously chemo doesn't work. It's like, well, here's people who survived cancer. They did do chemo and they are this it's true on both sides like and there's examples of that in every walk of life, like survivor biases is definitely something to be very aware of.

00:31:21:11 - 00:31:39:10

Unknown

It's so true. This is maybe two or three years ago we did this. We we did this build, we did this flip, and everything worked out perfectly. In this flip, it was we bought land, we put up we put up some prefabs and we sold them. And this was the market was hot and we bought the land before the market got hot.

00:31:40:08 - 00:32:00:08

Unknown

Do you even, you know, and we put in these orders for these prefabs before all the prices doubled, before the pandemic lock. Okay. And then, and then we sold them. And then our profits were, I think, three times higher than we projected our profits or profits in a B. And I've a friend of mine who's been a builder for 25 years or so, I mean, he built mansions, He built everything.

00:32:00:08 - 00:32:23:04

Unknown

The man's brilliant and I love what he said to me. He said, Jason, just make sure don't confuse luck with skill, you know, that's. Yeah. And he was so right. I mean, we had to be skill. We had to pull it off. We had, there was a of skill that was included that happened. But then what happened is then two years later, mid two or three, whatever it was, market conditions changed.

00:32:24:03 - 00:32:39:16

Unknown

And then within the next year, silly thing, we wound up just selling the land because it didn't make sense to put the house on it. Everything changed and so okay. And we had our run and we did go to most of them, the land we lost a little bit of money, but whatever, we won the game and so we lost on that.

00:32:39:22 - 00:33:08:13

Unknown

But again, it comes down to market conditions. Yeah, and people were it was 3% interest rates at the time. So everyone was buying. People were, you know, and we could, you know, charge market rates were high at the time as that is the point. But okay so that's back back to the real estate. So one of our projects is came about maybe a year and a half ago I saw a news article for a Town for Sale Cleator, Arizona, and I thought, Wow, a town is for sale.

00:33:08:13 - 00:33:26:08

Unknown

How funny I did. I didn't even know you could buy a town. And so I copied the link and I sent it to Joe Polish, who runs the Genius Network. I'm a member of Genius Network, and I said, Want to buy a town? Ha ha ha. Was joke. Immediately he texted me back, Well, maybe. Like what? I don't know.

00:33:26:09 - 00:33:47:23

Unknown

Buy a town. What am I going to do for the town? What do I know about running a town? What does that even mean? Running a town, you know? And then six months later, I think eight months later, we bought the town. Well, it was some of the considerations because there's two other partners, Michael, the owner and Ben, who are the the partners in the town.

00:33:47:23 - 00:34:05:10

Unknown

And as we were thinking about the circling the wagon, you know, we're thinking do a yes, no, yes, no. Do we do we do it? One thought I had well, it's about an hour from my residence. So how many times in a life or how many opportunities do you have to purchase a town that's one hour from your residence?

00:34:05:20 - 00:34:33:06

Unknown

I figured one it most. Yeah. Like if I passed on this, then not likely I would have that opportunity again. So we we purchased the town. And so what does that even mean? So the first like, like when you're going through real estate, here's what I find, and I was taught this by people a lot wealthier than me with real estate, the first thing you determine, you do all your analysis and then you come up with, Do I acquire the asset?

00:34:33:06 - 00:35:07:24

Unknown

Yes or no? Simple. And that the answer, Obviously, if the answer is no, then you move on. If the answer is yes, then full steam ahead. All get locked and loaded. Get it, get the asset, acquire the asset. Because even acquiring Cleator, there's a whole drama back story wasn't so easy. We had a guru on our team who knows real estate much better than I do, who is the one that actually had to acquire it, That took some some skill and I got to learn and watch during during that whole ordeal.

00:35:08:13 - 00:35:24:24

Unknown

And then once we acquired it, this was very unique, getting a town. Usually if you acquire a piece of real estate, you kind of know what you're going to do with it. Yeah, so this was a little unique. We didn't really know what we were going to do. It's just like, okay, just get it and figure it out and it's going to be a blank slate.

00:35:24:24 - 00:35:42:24

Unknown

Like we're going to have like an artist or Joe likes to call it a skunkworks project, or we're just going to figure it out as we go and just make it up as we go along. And that's what we've been doing. And so what we've been doing in the town, it was an old ghost town, a handful of residents, 18 structures.

00:35:43:08 - 00:36:03:02

Unknown

There's a bar, an active bar, there's a store. There was an old schoolhouse that hadn't been used since the forties in the schoolhouse and about 14 other structures that are there of houses and people were renting it out. And and so what we've been doing is restoring it. We, you know, graded this whole area. We are restoring right now.

00:36:03:02 - 00:36:21:08

Unknown

There's a team up there restoring the schoolhouse. There's all this old mining equipment that's just out laying about amazing what these people used to do for mining the physical manual labor that they had to do for the mining. So we're turning all the mining pieces into artwork and we're building this giant fence with all these mining pieces in front of it.

00:36:21:08 - 00:36:42:07

Unknown

So when you drive up, there's a there's a massive piece of art and we're restoring the schoolhouse and we've already done events. They're kind of Burning Man ish type events that were that we're doing there. There's a live bar, so if you go there in the summer gets a little hot, so it's not as busy. But in the winter, if you go there on a Saturday, you'll see 300 people there hanging out in the bar.

00:36:42:07 - 00:37:03:00

Unknown

So it's a very active ghost town. So when we say when we say Ghost Town, because it's right on the way geographically to another town called Crown King, if you're not in this area, that won't mean anything. But you have to pass through Cleator to get through to get to Crown King. And so there's massive there's hundreds of cars going by it in ATVs.

00:37:03:05 - 00:37:28:23

Unknown

It's a dirt road. It was in the old railroad is what it what it was. And we were the first ever to get water. 700 feet down. We got water. We inherited a old contract with the United States Forest Service designed by pre-World War two Railroad engineers, three miles of pipe, somehow almost duct taped together like one inch pipe uphill.

00:37:28:23 - 00:37:47:10

Unknown

I don't know. It's a miracle. I look at it, it's like, this shouldn't work. This defies the law of physics. And somehow it's worked for a hundred years. Really. And it goes uphill is not potable water, but it was giving some type of water. But what we got, we got real water on our first try. I don't know if you've ever dug a well, but I'll be I'm on, I'm on.

00:37:47:10 - 00:38:08:09

Unknown

Well, water. Okay. You know, I will dig it, but I mean it's there. Well we got it. And so we're doing all these projects with us. So that's the dirt dirt project. But then we're doing other creative projects. We're the first town ever to have an NFT. We had a successful NFT launch. We have the town in virtual reality.

00:38:08:09 - 00:38:35:19

Unknown

As far as I know, it's the first town to ever be in virtual reality. We are starting should be later on this year, a Cleator sheriff department. And here's a teaching of the sheriff. Okay, There's an old concept. It's called the Three treasures. I mean, if you Google the three treasures, once you get past Pirates of the Caribbean, you'll you'll find this in very simply means we're made up of three things matter, energy and consciousness.

00:38:36:10 - 00:39:03:22

Unknown

So, for example, matter is everything. You can see, touch and feel. The energy is breath, emotion, g prana qi ghee, bioelectrical energy like all the things that run in that range. And then the consciousness is the eternal I am. So if we have H2O or so shows up in ice, water and vapor, a solid, you know, solid liquid vapor.

00:39:04:11 - 00:39:23:07

Unknown

And so it's the same idea. So we're the same construct, but there's a physical component to us. There's like an emotional component, and then we can say spiritual component, or even if we want to get less esoteric, just say the thoughts. So so we have those three, those three building blocks, but it's all the same matter because it's all it's all us.

00:39:23:15 - 00:39:50:03

Unknown

Well, five points in a sheriff badge and the sheriff is traditionally the protector of persons and property. Okay, we all get that. However, pain doesn't always come from a bad guy trying to attack you. It can come from stress. It can come from emotional imbalance. It can come from mental turbidity. So the true warrior defends on all fronts and so on the back of the sheriff badge is the five elements.

00:39:50:03 - 00:40:11:17

Unknown

What we spoke about before would fire earth metal water, which is the metaphor for protecting on on all fronts. So it's a different kind of town, different kind of sheriff, different arrangement of how we're organizing this town. I like it. It's pretty rad. We'll have to come through is and I'll admit our making all this up as we go along.

00:40:11:17 - 00:40:32:01

Unknown

That's the other part geographically is cleator. So I'm trying to think I feel like I've been through Crown King. Is that like up towards the mountains, like east northeast of. Yeah. If you go, you go up to Phenix, like right in the middle of Phenix is called the I 17 and you get off in the bumblebee exit which you are going west.

00:40:32:10 - 00:40:52:16

Unknown

So it's west of the I 17 like kind of northwest 12 miles a dirt road near there. And it's a really cool thing because, you know, if you show up with a six shooter and Spurs, you'll fit right in. And when you go up to Crown King, it's a very famous mountains, the Bradshaw mountains, you're going up a switchback, which was the old railroad.

00:40:53:06 - 00:41:11:00

Unknown

So you're going up this ancient railroad. They took out the railroad. And there's some points. There's one point where I don't know if only one car fits in the road at a time. So if a car's coming the other way, you have to stop. And you can see where they blasted out with dynamite. So the rock just goes straight up the sides.

00:41:11:00 - 00:41:28:09

Unknown

It's really cool and it's so beautiful and you feel like you're in a hundred years. A hundred years ago. That's awesome. I'm trying to figure out if I've actually driven through here, but I can't. I don't know. I've driven through some pretty interesting places in Arizona. I do a lot of road tripping and you might have don't know about.

00:41:28:22 - 00:41:46:19

Unknown

Yeah, Crown Crown King is the elevation is high. It's around 5000 feet. And Grand kings you have to go up the mountain. Yeah, I've been I've been all over Flagstaff and Phenix and a bunch of mountains around. So there's a pretty good chance I have a feeling you might have to stop for a stopped at the Cleator bar, the Cleator Bar and Yacht Club.

00:41:47:07 - 00:42:14:02

Unknown

If not, I will now try going through it. I'm going to be like I know the owner well, or at least the I don't know what you're you're official title is now you can say share of a title or owner cliche of the sheriff Jason Joe Polish as the mayor Oh gosh let's I have a goal now my goal was to build it by an island but now it's just I just want to be my own sheriff.

00:42:15:15 - 00:42:42:02

Unknown

Sheriff Dave, that will make me a deputy. We have that's that's coming up next year with the with the department. We have badges and everything. We have it all. All set up. Let's see. I love. It's a super cool. And the thing is, like, it's just. It's just fun. That's what's good. It's just fun that you can make, like the thing that everybody hates about, like, government and cities and towns and whatever.

00:42:42:02 - 00:43:07:02

Unknown

Like, none of that matters because you guys are running the show and you just like, yeah, like we're going to have fun. Who cares? Yeah, It's like, well, the town is older than the state. Wow. And so the town was founded in 1864. Arizona was incorporated in 1912. So that so it's I mean, boy, there's a whole other discussion, the legal rights and the legalities of.

00:43:07:02 - 00:43:31:11

Unknown

It and it's back and forth from from county viewpoint. Oh no we're in charge from you know but we have a it's it's almost like Native American land how there's different types of rights because it is going into what's called a land patent as opposed to a deed. And a patent is like Pre Inc of the state and I think I forget which president signed the land patent of Cleator.

00:43:32:07 - 00:43:50:05

Unknown

So that's a whole it's a whole legal discussion. But then you get into how much do you want to fight the county and claim your rights first, just deal with them and become friends with them. So there's always that balance of you're like, we just want to serve alcohol and have our own sheriffs leave us alone. That's right.

00:43:50:06 - 00:44:12:06

Unknown

We just really we want to truly turn the town into a place of good Joe has a whole foundation like genius foundation of art for addicts. Art is for addicts. And so we're doing all types of we'll have art shows that we'll do up there. We have again back to the Burning Man ish shows that we'll have. We'll have events because we have this whole area.

00:44:12:06 - 00:44:37:14

Unknown

We can handle a thousand people in that area. And then we're fixing up this old schoolhouse. We found all old like voting booths from the forties in the schoolhouse. We found old Superintendent notices. We did. And even when we were building it, there was this long wire or this long pole up the side of the house, of the side of the schoolhouse, and the contractor said, You know, that has no purpose one, and I just take it down or the builder.

00:44:37:14 - 00:44:54:12

Unknown

I'm thinking now just just wait. Don't do anything yet. What is that? We couldn't figure out what it was. Finally, we figured it out. It was the old telegraph pole. So I said, Oh, no, we're keeping that. I'm not cutting down a telegraph pole. Are you kidding me? This is awesome. I don't even have a fax machine anymore.

00:44:54:17 - 00:45:16:24

Unknown

A telegraph pole? When's the last time you saw one of those? So cool. I can see it all now. It you guys are going to end up being like, All right, look, we'll pay taxes. Your sheriffs can show up and arrest people. You just want to party, all right? Just right. Just leave alone. Oh, the new hoodlums in town.

00:45:17:09 - 00:45:53:16

Unknown

It's so funny. I It's funny because I have a friend who owns a missile silo in Kansas, and so I can just envision, Oh, cool. At some point in the life one of us is going to try to be like, Ooh, a town. Because they have, you know, he's got like this, this atlas missile silo or whatever. But then there's these, there's these other there's all these different types of missile silos or built and there's this one type that has like three different they had different silos and like a mile of tunnels between them all in like a barracks And like in theory, if you can get a hold of one of those silos, then

00:45:53:16 - 00:46:16:14

Unknown

you can turn it into like an Airbnb with like three different underground silos and like all these different tunnels you can like drive through and like, I add my wheels. When I saw that I was just wheels are turning and like, you know, buy one of those someday and like, build my own little underground village. Now I see when we started this conversation, I didn't know that I wanted a missile silo.

00:46:16:14 - 00:46:38:19

Unknown

Now I want a missile silo. Like when I woke up this morning, I didn't know that was on my list. No, What was? I think it's crazy. It's the most viral video on TikTok has me running around with a beer showing off in silent. Oh, it goes like 18 stories underground. And yeah, there's some dude who turned them into a bunch of, like, survival condos and sells me for, like, a half a million a pop.

00:46:39:01 - 00:47:11:08

Unknown

Yeah. And he's got like 13 condos and one silo or something like that. And it's kind of crazy what you can do with them. But my buddies just just planted Airbnb it and yeah, it's, it's pretty, pretty wild. Pretty, pretty cool. Yeah Well that's actually really cool. And let me also I will I mean, perhaps are the two I'm going to speak to speak to our listener right now and a little reminder and we're talking about this crazy stuff and towns and silos and real estate and all these things.

00:47:11:08 - 00:47:36:21

Unknown

Well, let's remember that comparison is the thief of joy. And it's very easy. Like, well, that's it. When you compare, you tend to get upset. There's the joke is what is it? Instagram makes you depressed and Twitter makes you angry and you go on to Instagram and get depressed. And I remember I have a friend of mine, she's very, very smart.

00:47:36:21 - 00:48:00:00

Unknown

She's an investor, very, very successful. She grew up in a third world country, very, very poor like her. And a lot of sisters shared this little room, tiny room. They didn't have any stuff. And she said to me, there's an interesting story. She said, you know what? I didn't realize I was poor until later on in life. I didn't feel poor.

00:48:00:00 - 00:48:19:24

Unknown

I had my I had my family, I had everything. And we just did our stuff and I didn't realize it, which is an interesting thing because she had no contrast. I think about a kid today in that same situation, they get on Instagram and they see these people trying to show off and say, Oh, look at me and look at all my things.

00:48:19:24 - 00:48:49:21

Unknown

Look at how important I am because I have possession of things. And then all of a sudden you feel worse because you don't have all those things. And hey, there's always someone that has more things, more stuff, more toys, more whatever than you and always people that have less things, toys, stuff and whatever than you. And ultimately like the mastery in the, you know, kind of emotional mastery, Zen mastery.

00:48:49:23 - 00:49:11:10

Unknown

So whatever. Build your own thing, build your own world, okay. And whatever your world is because okay, I was taught this as a child and go with me here. This is not my shirt. It's the shirt I wear. I don't mean legally. Legally. Sure, it's my shirt. Okay. No, it's mine. Me, mine. But at some point, me and the shirt are going to part ways.

00:49:12:03 - 00:49:37:20

Unknown

Okay? This isn't my house. It's the house I live in. Again. Not legally. It's not my town. I guess it's the town I run. I guess what they say hurts the town I Whatever I play in, it's not my car. It's the car I drive. But then we can even take it a step further and we can say, It's not my body, it's the body I live in.

00:49:37:20 - 00:50:14:04

Unknown

Because at some point you give it back. It's a rental. You don't know anything. You don't own shit from a spiritual viewpoint that again, not legal. And so all your things, all your stuff, all your possessions, you got to make sure that you own them and they don't own you. Because I know people and I train people. I train people that have a lot more zeros on their balance sheet than I do and are a lot less happy when we all tend to think, if I could only double my income and add a zero to my net worth, then I'd be happy.

00:50:14:04 - 00:50:33:21

Unknown

Bull nonsense. I've never seen it happen. You have to find the not even joy. Happiness is a weird thing because you chase happiness and if you're always happy, you're never happy. So you need a little dollop of it opposite of whatever word we want to use for the opposite of happiness to create happy. Show me somebody that's always happy.

00:50:33:21 - 00:50:54:04

Unknown

So you can't be always happy, but you can be present and you can be peaceful. So you can have the silence or the stillness that's underneath the emotion. The happy, sad, up, down high, low, angry, worry it all that stuff, because we all have them and I have all those emotions. You have to There's anyone that tells you they don't either.

00:50:54:04 - 00:51:17:12

Unknown

A complete psychopath like a lizard, a reptile trying to sell you something. Oh, no, really. You'll just be happy all the time. Yeah. Okay. Or is completely delusional. So. No, I've been practicing this decades. I still have the ups and the downs. It's going to happen. But when you can find the stillness underneath, you can have the peace.

00:51:18:15 - 00:51:43:02

Unknown

And then the game of form of of gain and loss is is a game. And here's how I was taught. I was taught as a kid. I had a Zen master said to me, he taught me the laws of abundance in the laws of wealth. And this is what he told me. Sometimes pond four, sometimes pond, empty pond four, oak pond empty.

00:51:43:02 - 00:52:07:10

Unknown

Okay. Then he walked he left. He left. Let me contemplate not teaching. It's really profoundly true of just can you stay? Study the game of gain and loss of you know you have successes, you have lost whatever just stay steady, stay in it. And at some point you give it all back. Some point you give your body back, you give all your stuff back.

00:52:07:20 - 00:52:35:13

Unknown

So as you accumulate stuff, let's be smart, have smart real estate deals, smart, build abundance, build your sanctuary, build your lifestyle. Absolutely. Of course. What else are you going to do? But can you have the peace underneath and at the same time, well, remember to include you in your portfolio because we train people that, again, are very, very wealthy, but a lot of them forgot to include themself in their portfolio.

00:52:36:14 - 00:53:04:14

Unknown

And the person with good health has a thousand wishes. The person with poor health has one wish. Yeah, man, that's good. And that's such an important lesson. I mean, all of that really. But to sum it all up, you're right. Comparison is the thief of joy. I mean, that's. That's it. Just. Just be present, but be present and also with a dollop of gratitude.

00:53:05:01 - 00:53:26:02

Unknown

Yeah. And it's funny, even if your life is. If your life is a shit show. Okay, guess what? All lives are shit shows and every life has some part that it's a shit show and everyone does it. I've never seen it that it's not. And usually when someone tells you it's not, they're trying to sell you something and then it's.

00:53:26:07 - 00:53:42:06

Unknown

Then it's dark and it's disingenuous. No. Or tell you that a business I had one of my one of my students. She was really frustrated because whatever because of her business and some things didn't go right and everything, she was like, I just want it to run smoothly, you know? When is it when is it ever when is there ever not problems?

00:53:42:15 - 00:54:06:19

Unknown

I said, Well, it's kind of like the saying, okay, just let me back up. Don't worry about being at one with the universe. You have death and all of eternity to be at one with the universe. Enjoy your separateness now. And with separateness comes issues. So when is a business ever all set? It's not. When are you ever all set?

00:54:06:19 - 00:54:25:17

Unknown

You're not gonna get my cars in the shop. I drive a raptor some stuff. I blew some stuff out. Guess what? And so it's all I mean, it's good. Then it comes out and then something else, a blow out, and I go in the shop. Well, guess what? We're in the shop. I have to get a crown in my tooth saying, Wow, I'm in my raptures in the shop and I got to go to the shop during the drill.

00:54:25:17 - 00:54:50:04

Unknown

And my two then two and there were crowds like all form constantly falls apart because we all suffer from the same fate of impermanence. And that's okay. That's the beauty of it. That's, that's, that's where you find the joy. If there was no impermanence, you couldn't have the joy. You see, the only reason the Super Bowl works is because there's a built in tragedy.

00:54:50:04 - 00:55:18:19

Unknown

What are you going to do? Give two teams participation trophies? No. One team. It's the most greatest. Glorious. We did it. Blah, blah, blah. But for the other team, it's more tragic for the team that loses the Super Bowl than for the team that comes in last place. You know, far more tragic. But it only works. The triumph only works with the tragedy you can't have, you know, So it's like in comics, the the superhero only works with the super villain.

00:55:19:05 - 00:55:45:08

Unknown

And what do we call a superhero with no super villains, a weirdo in tights. The other answer to that is unemployed. So everything needs its opposite. You have to have that. And that's just the polarity of life. That's the laws of nature that we have. So back to just having things don't be moved by things like like accumulate your stuff, build your sanctuary.

00:55:46:08 - 00:56:02:21

Unknown

Sometimes you might have situations where you have too much stuff and then I call that conquering more than you can occupy. You conquer more than you can occupy. I once in my life I had a 7500 square foot house. For some people you might think that's a big house. For some people, you might think it's a small house.

00:56:02:21 - 00:56:23:03

Unknown

What I learned when I had a 7500 square foot house, this I don't need a 7500 square foot house. It was too big. I want up being rooms I never used. I like. I conquered more than I could occupy. And so no, I for smaller I'm happier in a smaller and a smaller place. 4100 square feet. That's where I live now.

00:56:23:03 - 00:56:42:00

Unknown

That's perfect for me. But even that I have a room. I have a for you right there next door It is. Or it's a beautiful place outside, but I'm never in it. Only time. A minute. This is like clean it. Silly analogy, but Brazil example but conquering and occupying. So you don't need to keep having more and more and more.

00:56:42:00 - 00:57:04:21

Unknown

You just figure out what you're enough. That's the that's the bottom line. Figure out what your enough number is. Remember, comparison is the thief of joy. No, I love it. I love it as it is awesome. And that being said, we are right around the hour mark. So where can people get a hold of you if they'd like to reach it?

00:57:04:21 - 00:57:19:20

Unknown

Well, for one, yeah. Plug your YouTube channel because yeah, I'm not the only one who didn't want to listen to your music and I'm an obviously link it in the show notes. But outside of that, where can people get a hold of you if they'd like to learn more about your meditation practices. Okay. YouTube is a really easy one.

00:57:19:20 - 00:57:48:04

Unknown

Jason Campbell's in music at YouTube you can go to Zen piano dot com. There's information there. There's also the training. You go to Zen wellness dot com Let's see some other ones leader you can go to what's your cleator seal O.R. and the what's your calendar is a metaphor of doing something that your is beyond your comfort zone that's what we call it.

00:57:48:04 - 00:58:04:04

Unknown

And we have the whole NFT, we have all the cleator work that we do there. So that's a that's a good start. Those are and we didn't even talk about the ranch. We have a 400 acre ranch that we do our our training at. Oh, well, let's maybe do that next time. We'll talk about some of the cool stuff we're doing in there.

00:58:04:15 - 00:58:26:16

Unknown

And I love real estate, so this is a good real estate. And guns are two things I really like you and I both. So I'm in the right place. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I wanted to talk about the ranch for sure. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Jason, this has been phenomenal. Thank you so much for joining me today.

00:58:27:00 - 00:58:48:06

Unknown

Yeah, thank you for having me. This is a lot of fun, David. Absolutely. Yeah. Well. Oh, we're the it's the whole perk of having this thing hiding up here. I can't remember where this button is, too. In the recording, my editor is going to be like, You're an idiot. As he gets the lists and all this at some point, Well, that keeps your editor employed.

 

Jason Campbell on the Military Millionaire Podcast

Episode: 214

Jason Campbell

Are you ready to find the secret path to a clear, still mind and peak creativity? Join us in this extraordinary episode of From Military to Millionaire podcast, as Dave dives deep into the fascinating world of zen piano music and meditation with the master himself, Jason Campbell.

 

Jason is a living testament to the tranquility and clarity found in meditation. He first stumbled upon the power of listening to the silence between notes over four decades ago, a concept introduced by his piano teacher that became the bedrock of his journey. Today, he's a renowned zen music artist, meditation guru, and a force for positive change.

 

Jason has poured his passion into a Zen practice that has touched thousands of lives. His belief is as simple as it is empowering: everyone can reach a state of profound tranquility by embracing the silence within. His teachings offer a pathway to a world of clarity, creativity, and lasting happiness.

 

Beyond his Zen wisdom, Jason’s musical brilliance shines brightly. With over 100 chart-topping albums, he stands tall in the musical arena. His magical blend of music and meditation has created a unique genre, enriching the lives of countless individuals. His varied interests led him to explore martial arts and yoga practices known for promoting focus, discipline, and body-mind harmony.

 

Yet, the captivating facets of Jason's life don't end here. He's an avid real estate enthusiast, currently spearheading a unique project – reviving an entire town, fondly referred to as an ‘active ghost town’. Jason shares enthralling insights into this novel venture.

 

So, are you intrigued to tune into the silent spaces of your mind and also explore the thrilling world of real estate with Jason Campbell? Join us on this episode of From Military to Millionaire podcast, where silence speaks volumes, and an ‘active ghost town' awaits your visit. Let the sound of Zen guide you towards peace, prosperity, and a new perspective on life.

 

What You’ll Learn:

 

  • How can you cultivate the habit of being present in the NOW?
  • How can embracing the silence within lead to profound stillness and transformation, according to Jason?
  • How does avoiding comparison contribute to personal growth and happiness?
  • What's brewing next in the worlds of Jason Campbell's music and real estate?
  • And so much more!

 

Favorite Quote:

 

“True clarity arises when we learn to silence the voice in our heads and embrace the profound stillness within.”

 

–  Jason Campbell

 

How to Connect:

 

If you're interested in connecting with Jason and learning more about his work, there are a variety of ways to do so.

 

Visit his website to dive deeper into his world of Zen piano. There, you can listen to his transformative music, learn about his unique philosophy, and even sign up for updates on his latest releases.

 

Of course, there's one more place where you can connect with Jason and that's his YouTube channel. Here, you can experience the tranquil world of his Zen piano music.

 

If wellness is your focus, check out Zen Wellness to explore a world of resources and programs designed to cultivate peace and well-being.

 

Jason loves to connect with his audience on a personal level. So, why not reach out to him on LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook? By following his social media pages, you'll get real-time updates on his music and insights into his journey.

 

Don't miss out on this chance to interact with the man behind the magic of Zen piano and the ‘active ghost town' project!

 

 

Links are below:

 

https://www.zenpiano.com/

https://www.jasoncampbellmusic.net/

https://zenwellness.com/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkMziepM0tTUiHUy-3F7IJA

https://www.facebook.com/jasonandrobincampbellmusic

https://www.instagram.com/newopera108/

 

 

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